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post #1 of 44 Old 03-28-2012, 09:58 PM Thread Starter
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To Glow or Not to Glow...

Hey Everyone,

I am a relatively new rider and I always abide to the master rule - ATGATT (armoured). In all honesty, I can't imagine anything else as that has been my habit since the beginning.:thumbsup:

I also wear a high visibility ICON jacket over the top of my riding jacket.

Here's my question...

Obviously it is a good idea to be as conspicuous as possible by 'glowing' as you ride but have any of you actually perceived / experienced a difference in the way drivers treat you when you do wear a High Vis jacket compared to when you don't?

Is it OBVIOUS to you that it makes a difference or do you wear it because you THINK it makes sense?

I spoke to an ex-police rider (who also instructs) who doesn't wear one anymore. His reasoning was that he can be just as conspicuous to other drivers by the way he rides, uses his body, his lights and horn.

I am really interested in your thoughts even though, TBH - I will continue to ride with mine!:thumbsup:

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It is hard to say. I think I get seen better wearing hi-viz, but I can't be sure. Even if the hi-viz increases the percentage of drivers who notice me from 50% to 51%, that ain't all bad. I prefer an orange hi-viz jacket in areas with a lot of greenery, and lime yellow in urban or brown country. The Class 3 with sleeves is even more visible than the usual Class 2 vest. I was driving early before sunrise recently near a rider with the reflective stripes on his vest, and he was easy to see.

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While the officer has a point. All you have to do is ask any policeman you know why someone gets a ticket and the answer boils down to (and I paraphrase); "because something made them standout". That can be speed, color, style of riding, horns or lights etc.

However, there is a reason that highway workers etc., all where "high visibility" vests, shirts or jackets. It makes them more visible.

If it just keeps one self-absorbed, cell phone using teen or one blue hair (which is rapidly coming to include me an others on this board from running into us it has been worth it.

YMMV and take free advise and thoughts for what you paid for them. But I have heard to many "... but officer I didn't even see him" to make me a bit more careful.

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It's not a magic shield for sure.

I wear a light coloured silver jacket - summer that's fine - heading into winter, not so good, I get a lot more drivers pulling out of driveways, lane changing on top of me and the like.

Put on the high vis and the near miss rate drops again - it doesn't drop to zero though . So - yes - it does make a difference - but guaranteed to save your life, no.

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"His reasoning was that he can be just as conspicuous to other drivers by the way he rides, uses his body, his lights and horn."

Yeah, that makes sense, but you can do all that and still wear neon. There is a long thread on just this subject with very good info and lots of opinions.

I will never be convinced it makes you less safe....and neon is the new ADV rider segment's black leather. They will know you didn't ride in on a cruiser.

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Do what makes you feel comfortable. If you feel safer in Hi-Vis then great. I like colors and reflective stuff. I believe it helps.

Dress like a cop and everyone will keep an eye on you. Get a modulator.

Ride safe always. Don't put yourself into dangerous positions, like blind spots, and choose your lane position carefully. Don't rush into intersections without looking, or pass dangerously.

Here is an interesting survey that was done in New Zealand on this subject.

Motorcycle rider conspicuity and crash related injury: case-control study | BMJ
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I appreciate all the feedback.

I took a look at the other thread about hi-vis and it certainly answered a lot of my questions ( thanks for that). Interesting stuff.

Cheers!

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