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post #1 of 26 Old 03-26-2012, 04:46 PM Thread Starter
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Veggie Oilier?

I have read a few points online about what to use in leu of scottoiler brand oil however, my question comes from a more earth friendly concern. From a chain's perspective, is it okay to use canola or vegetable oil? After using my oiler, I happy with how it's working but in the back of my mind, I am not liking the fact that I am putting 250ml of oil on the road every few months.

Any thoughts? Will the oil gum up/foam?

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Seriously? aaaaaaa neither are a lubricant. If you wear out the drive train and have to replace it significantly sooner then when using a LUBRICANT, what is the environmental impact of producing, packaging, transportation of those replacement parts to the end user make??

I use Dumonde Tech BHP (which you can use in a Scottoiler). It lasts longer, you use sparingly, doesn't put "oil all over the road"...... It makes an smaller environmental impact of lesser quality, shorter life span, more often applied chain lubes.

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Is this a serious question? Canola oil? Veggie oil? Really? Gum up or foam? Dude, I think you need to worry about the lubrication properties not whether it will gum up/foam or not...

The Exxon Valdez did more environmental damage in the first 3 seconds of the oil spill then you will ever do in a life time if you flushed all your used oil down your toilet...

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Yea, well... what can I say? Serious question. I know a few people who use rapeseed on their chain saws. On any O ring chain, I would have thought it could work.

As for foaming, bio-based oils mixed with mineral oils will for sure foam.

Just thought I'd ask - who knows. Besides, see the Posts? I'm still a newbie.
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A chain saw is not a motorcycle. A bicycle is not a motorcycle. They all have chains but..... Rapseed, canola, veggie oil, soy oil suck as a chain lube on bicycle as well.

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I have read a few points online about what to use in leu of scottoiler brand oil however, my question comes from a more earth friendly concern. From a chain's perspective, is it okay to use canola or vegetable oil? After using my oiler, I happy with how it's working but in the back of my mind, I am not liking the fact that I am putting 250ml of oil on the road every few months.

Any thoughts? Will the oil gum up/foam?

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The eco-perspective is don't use Canola oil; you'd be supporting genetic engineering (I don't care though; I'm all for genetic engineering, but I don't agree with Monsanto's approach).

Canola oil isn't a good lubricant. If you want to use a vegetable oil, I suggest you use olive oil (doesn't have to be first-press). Its lubrication properties are similar to the ATF fluid I use in mine, but it's quite a bit thicker. (Your question was serious, and so is my answer). The drawback is that it goes rancid.

Olive oil is better than no lube and constant lube is better than intermittent lube (which is what everyone without an oiler is doing).

I recommend ATF in your oiler; it's really good and very cheap. The environmental impact is quite minimal as most of it will end up on your left sidecase. But I think olive oil will do the job; I'm quite serious about that.

I just thought of something: when I was flying R/C airplanes, I'd fuel them with a mixture of nitromethane and castor oil (2stroke engines). Castor oil would probably be the best eco-friendly oil you can put on your chain. Many a two-stroke miniature engine can vouch for its lubricating properties; I've run engines for hundreds of hours, and their usable speed was in the 20,000 to 40,000 rpm range.

Yeah, try castor oil. That's probably your best bet.

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ATF or castor oil.

Castor oil can be hard to get, and it's quite poisonous.

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Being an o-ring chain, I think just about any oil would work okay. Not as good as chain lube, but still okay. It would keep the chain cleaner than not using oil.

I say try it. I bet you get between 15-20000 miles on your chain just like everyone else.

But I say be even more green and use recycled restaurant oil.

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then again

Maybe you've identified a niche for one of the oil companies to refine an organic chain lube. But most of the natural (cooking) oils are quite sticky after a short period of time. I suspect your chain would grow fur, hardly ideal for the sprockets. When you're putting a ton or two of CO2 in the atmosphere and several pounds of 'rubber' dust as well, not to mention micro-soot (probably the next big health threat), a few ounces of oil on the road tend to pale by comparison. And a good deal of that will end up splattered on your bike anyway. If you are looking for environmentally friendly, walk. Otherwise, own your vices.
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unlike solvents, gasoline or antifreeze, oil binds with soil quickly, it doesn't get in the water table and more than the road asphalt itself, another petroleum product


I would suggest, not riding or using any motorized vehicles or even using electricity or burning a campfire if your so concerned about pollution

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