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post #1 of 51 Old 10-10-2006, 04:22 PM Thread Starter
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How good are jeans?

For crash protection anyway. In light of my difficulty finding riding pants that fit, I have been wondering how my jeans will hold up in a crash. I've got all the other gear (gloves, boots, jacket, helmet) but I like my legs too. Anyone have any experience to share?

I asked this in another thread, but does anyone know of a brand of riding pants that have a baggy fit? I guess my leg size doesn't match my waist size ( 36-38 ) and everything I have tried on has fit in the waist but feels way too tight on legs. I usually have to get baggy or carpenter style jeans in order to be comfortable (no strait leg for me), so something along those lines except in riding pants. Thanks.

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post #2 of 51 Old 10-10-2006, 04:28 PM
 
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Jeans suck. Denim pretty much vaporizes as soon as you start to slide. There are tests somewhere on the web showing how well different materials hold up to abrasion.

Joe Rocket makes pants in Tall sizes. Not sure if that helps you or not, but I've been happy enough with my Ballistic overpants from them (32 waist, 34 inseam).

"Draggin Jeans" offer some kevlar patches on likely abrasion points. Not sure if they offer big and tall sizes either.

Aerostich makes very good stuff (jackets, pants, one-piece suits) and do custom sizing. That'd be a great, but pricey, option. I'm probably buying their Darien jacket and pants combo over the winter since it doubles as raingear (lined with GoreTex).
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The issue is more about abrasion, not impact. Do some online searching, you'll find more than you want to read.

From http://tinyurl.com/ksrwk

"Traditional material for motorcycle clothing is leather, but thick nylon and other synthetic materials work well too. Kevlar reinforced jeans are better than normal jeans .Normal jeans last 0.6 seconds in the European standard abrasion test, while protective motorcycle pants will last 5 seconds or more. You don’t really want to be ripping your skin open within less than half a second of falling of your bike do you? Thought not."

and...

Reprint from a
Sept 88 "Cycle" magazine article "Abrasion Testing: Torn in the USA".

Drag Test

"For the Drag Test, samples were stitched to a bag that held a 75-pound
sandbag inside a milk crate, then dragged behind a pickup truck..."

New, 100% Cotton Denim Jeans ----------------------- 3' 10"
Senior Balistic Nylon ----------------------------------- 3' 10"
Leather, Lightweight, Nude Finish, 2.25 oz/sq. ft. --- 4' 3"
Leather, Fashion Weight, 1.75 oz/sq ft. ------------- 4' 4"
Two-year-old 100% Cotton Denim Jeans ------------ 4' 5"
Cordura Nylon Type 440 ----------------------------- 18' 3"
Kevlar 29 Aramid Fiber, Style 713 ------------------ 22' 1"
Leather, Competition Weight, 3 oz/sq. ft. -------- 86' 0"


Taber Test

"For the Taber Test, the specimen was mounted on a rotating platform and
scuffed by two rubber-emery grinding wheels." The numbers represent the
number of revolutions until the fabric totally fails. A vacuum clears
debris.

Two-year-old 100% Cotton Denim Jeans 168
New 100% Cotton Denim Jeans 225
Kevlar 29 Aramid Fiber, Style 713 506
Cordura Nylon, Type 440 559
Leather, Lightweight, Nude Finish, 2.25 oz./sq. ft. 564
Leather, Fashion Weight, 1.75 oz./sq. ft. 750
Senior Ballistic Nylon 817
Leather, Competition Weight, 3 oz./sq. ft. 2600

More to consider...

"Finally, protection from road abrasion cannot be guaranteed by a
materials abrasion resistance alone. A jacket may have panels of
highly abrasion-resistant materials, yet if low-quality stitching joins
those panels and the seams come apart upon impact or during a slide, then
the abrasion resistance of the panels could count for nothing.
Furthermore, an ill-fitting garment may ride up in a slide, contorting
the body and exposing the skin. And the best jacket in the world, left
unzipped and/or unsnapped, won't give riders the protection they pay
for. When it comes to safety, the issues are more complex than just the
abrasion resistance of materials."

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I bought a pair of Fieldsheer Booster pants in 2XL. I normally wear a 38 / 34 jean. When I first put these things on, they felt like a ski pants and could certainly be worn as an overpant. But they actually feel pretty good and are easy to get used to. They are ultra comfortable and plenty roomy in the legs, with a 34-35 inseam. Seem like good quality so far.

The service rep where I bought them (Sandhills) told me I should get the 2XL as they tend to fit small. If I were to get some again, I would prpbably go with an XL. If you are between 36-38 waist with larger legs, you could probably get away with either.

On E-Bay now is a pair of Fieldsheer Apollo pants, 2XL, with a start bid of $55.00. Quite similar to the Boosters, and quite reasonable.
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Thanks for the replies so far. I have been eyeing the firstgear HT air 2.0 pants. Anyone try those? I like the idea of a removable liner so I could wear them year round and in the rain (less to buy). Are the fieldsheer booster pants just for cold weather? I see they have a removable quilted liner but how are they without for temps in the 90-100+ range? Not trying to be picky, just seeing what I can get for around $100-150 that would be comfortable. I may just have to get a few sizes up in the waist so the rest of the pant will be bigger (I'll look really cool with my rope to hold up the pants 8) )

Oh yeah, after some light reading (thanks Heavy), I decided jeans suck for protection. Just have to be reeeeeeeaaaaal careful until I get the proper pants :shock:

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bigtallguy,

The Boosters seem to be a good all weather pant. I've yet to wear them with the liner in them and have been plenty warm thus far. They are pretty good on smokin hot days as long as you're moving. I got stuck in an hour long border line-up on a sweltering day last month, and only then did I start to sweat. Once moving again they vented themselves dry. The reason I think you'd like them is the ample thigh room. You never said how tall you were. Hear the First Gears are good too.
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FWIW, the Joe Rocket, Ballistic 5.0 pants come in "short". The "short"s are all 30" inseams, right from the small to the 5XL. I wore a pair during my ride across Canada this summer and they worked well for me. I didn't test them for abrasion resistance but they did keep me dry in the rain. :wink:

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Jeans are as good at protecting you in a crash as a wire brush is at getting the gravel out of your road rash... yes, they really do use them... I know this first hand.
Leather chaps, New material riding pants and jackets, and leave the protective pads in the things, you may be glad you did.
Learn from others mistakes...
I hope this helps...
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Well, the boosters seem like the ones that might work for me. I am 6'5" with a 35" inseam so I may opt for the tall option with them. I have tried on several other brands, including JR alter ego and they were just way too contstricting :shock: , if you know what I mean. Will most online places let you return for sizing reasons? Thanks guys, I am actually quite excited that I may have actually found some pants! Now, where's that penny jar?

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My highside last fall saw me wearing Joe Rocket Ballastic 4.0 pants and while I didn't slide as much as I was slammed to the ground :shock: , I can say the pants did their job 8)

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FWIW, the Joe Rocket, Ballistic 5.0 pants come in "short". The "short"s are all 30" inseams, right from the small to the 5XL. I wore a pair during my ride across Canada this summer and they worked well for me. I didn't test them for abrasion resistance but they did keep me dry in the rain. :wink:

http://www.joerocket.com/affiliates/...roducts_id=110

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