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post #1 of 46 Old 09-04-2006, 06:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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Need advice!! Get the 1000 or the 650?

Here's the pain; I have a 2006 BMW R1200GS. I love the bike, my wife hates the seating. I'm selling it and it has less than 500 miles on it. Just shoot me.

I've done some research. As I own a new Triumph Bonnevile T100 and a Speed Triple, I looked at the Triumph Tiger. I think the pilon seating on the new 2007 would be worse than my R1200GS. Looked at the KTM's and no thanks.

A friend of mine told me to look at the Vstrom. I've had good luck with Suzuki's. I've owned a couple of GSX-R's, a DR650ES, and a DRZ400E. Never a problem with any of them.

I weigh 205 and my wife is 115. The 1200 GS hauls us around no problem and so does the 865 Bonnevile.

I want to use this bike at our lake place northern MN. Lots of nice twisty paved roads and some fun gravel ones to explore on too.

Does the Strom do well on gravel? Which one do you all recommend? The 1000 or the 650? Would the 650 be able to haul us on longer road rides without struggling? Is the 1000 nimble enough to putt around slowly on gravel? The GS is heavier, but you sure don't feel it.

All advice very much appreciated.
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post #2 of 46 Old 09-04-2006, 07:08 PM
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Re: Need advice!! Get the 1000 or the 650?

With your combined weights you have nothing to worry about. If your EGO needs it buy the 1000, otherwise the 650 will do everything you ask of it and more 8)

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Here's the pain; I have a 2006 BMW R1200GS. I love the bike, my wife hates the seating. I'm selling it and it has less than 500 miles on it. Just shoot me.

I've done some research. As I own a new Triumph Bonnevile T100 and a Speed Triple, I looked at the Triumph Tiger. I think the pilon seating on the new 2007 would be worse than my R1200GS. Looked at the KTM's and no thanks.

A friend of mine told me to look at the Vstrom. I've had good luck with Suzuki's. I've owned a couple of GSX-R's, a DR650ES, and a DRZ400E. Never a problem with any of them.

I weigh 205 and my wife is 115. The 1200 GS hauls us around no problem and so does the 865 Bonnevile.

I want to use this bike at our lake place northern MN. Lots of nice twisty paved roads and some fun gravel ones to explore on too.

Does the Strom do well on gravel? Which one do you all recommend? The 1000 or the 650? Would the 650 be able to haul us on longer road rides without struggling? Is the 1000 nimble enough to putt around slowly on gravel? The GS is heavier, but you sure don't feel it.

All advice very much appreciated.

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Please lay off the "EGO CRAP" Nightwolf!!!!!! :roll: Ego has nothing to do with it...it is called a choice. I don't compensate for anything, and neither do most people that own a fast bike, or a big bore bike. If the Strom was only available in a 650....then I wouldn't own one. Myself and several other people, happen to enjoy riding bikes that you don't have to rev the piss out of them to hit the power ranges. The person that started this thread is obviously not new to motorcycling, and they are used to riding bigger and more powerful bikes. The 650 strom is a great bike, and they would probably like it just fine, but IMHO...the 1000 is better for 2 up, for obvious reasons.

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Been discussed over and over. The chassis of the two bikes are basically the same, so there is only one reason to get the 1000 - to move up from adequate power to a whole lot of power. And there are a few reasons to get the 650 - a liittle less weight, more manageable on dirt/gravel, smoother, better fuel economy/range, no FI glitches (although this seems to be a diminsihing concern), and, of course, less expense.

If you really want a fast bike and want something that will pull with authority even two-up, then the 1000 is your stead. But if you're Okay with the the 650's 62 RWHP, it's the better balanced package.

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Re: Need advice!! Get the 1000 or the 650?

[quote="Night_Wolf"]With your combined weights you have nothing to worry about. If your EGO needs it buy the 1000, otherwise the 650 will do everything you ask of it and more 8)

Thank you for the info. When my EGO needs to stretch it's legs, I pull out my new Triumph Speed Triple. This bike will reside at our lake home in northern MN. Casual scenic road stints of 300 to 400 miles and putting down gravel roads are what we do up there.
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To answer the question about the riding on gravel, the Strom has absolutely no problem. Shifting (deep) sand and mud can be hair raising. If you want to do more than dirt/gravel road or hardpack, lower the tire pressure to around low 20psi, helps a lot. I take my 650 down ATV tracks and haven't had problems. Since you are only using it part time and you have a stable of other bikes for power, I would suggest the 650, but both bikes are great.
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Please lay off the "EGO CRAP" Nightwolf!!!!!! :roll: Ego has nothing to do with it...it is called a choice. I don't compensate for anything, and neither do most people that own a fast bike, or a big bore bike. If the Strom was only available in a 650....then I wouldn't own one. Myself and several other people, happen to enjoy riding bikes that you don't have to rev the piss out of them to hit the power ranges. The person that started this thread is obviously not new to motorcycling, and they are used to riding bigger and more powerful bikes. The 650 strom is a great bike, and they would probably like it just fine, but IMHO...the 1000 is better for 2 up, for obvious reasons.
Not to highjack a thread, but THANK YOU, BB. I agree completely. I too am tired of reading the same crap. The DL1k and the DL650 are totally different bikes and to reduce the differences to "ego" is, well, ridiculous.

To the original author of the post, I can only speak for the DL1k. It is a very solid bike and my guess is you'd find it more similiar to the Big G than a WeeStrom. I have 2 friends who made that exact transition and are very pleased.

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I really think this subject is getting tiresome. I also believe that the people who post up with this question have already made up their minds, but are just looking for others to back up their decision. How many of these posts start with "I know the Wee is cheaper, lighter, more flickable, can commute and go 2 up at 80 mph all day, and has all the power I'll ever need. Should I get one?" Seems like you already know. What can anyone say to that will make you want to get a bigger bike? "Want to spend more, get worse mileage pay, more for insurance, drag around 30 lbs. of extra weght, and have more power than you really need? Then buy a liter bike."

Apparently I was OK with that so I bought the 1000. My reasons for buying the big bike have nothing to do with ego. It just seemed like a better fit for me. It looked more complete and balanced. It does have more power, but it is not all about top end. It is a different kind of power, very usable roll on power throughout the whole range. I am not a speed monster. On the contrary, I am probably the slowest Strom rider on the forum.

I like them and have ridden them both. But the Wee made me smile, and the Vee made me write a cheque.

Let's make it easier for all involved and have some sort of thread like "If you want a Wee, click here." Then all the reasons you are looking for will be listed in grand fashion. Other Wee guys could add to it. Newbs could see the link and go there, and they'll get the push they need. Just a thought.
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I really think this subject is getting tiresome. I also believe that the people who post up with this question have already made up their minds, but are just looking for others to back up their decision. How many of these posts start with "I know the Wee is cheaper, lighter, more flickable, can commute and go 2 up at 80 mph all day, and has all the power I'll ever need. Should I get one?" Seems like you already know. What can anyone say to that will make you want to get a bigger bike? "Want to spend more, get worse mileage pay, more for insurance, drag around 30 lbs. of extra weght, and have more power than you really need? Then buy a liter bike."

Apparently I was OK with that so I bought the 1000. My reasons for buying the big bike have nothing to do with ego. It just seemed like a better fit for me. It looked more complete and balanced. It does have more power, but it is not all about top end. It is a different kind of power, very usable roll on power throughout the whole range. I am not a speed monster. On the contrary, I am probably the slowest Strom rider on the forum.

I like them and have ridden them both. But the Wee made me smile, and the Vee made me write a cheque.

Let's make it easier for all involved and have some sort of thread like "If you want a Wee, click here." Then all the reasons you are looking for will be listed in grand fashion. Other Wee guys could add to it. Newbs could see the link and go there, and they'll get the push they need. Just a thought.

If you don't like these types of posts, then don't read them. Your response was worthless anyway. Debate is healthy and usually brings out excellent observations. One of the purposes for a forum like this.

Some of us are truly looking for owners who can give the pro's and cons of both bikes in a truly objective manner. What one does better than the other for example. My mind was not made up when I did the post and I wanted up to date information that included new features on both models as the 650 now has ABS as an example.

As money is no object for me, I was looking for the model that fits my needs based on what I was going to be using the bike for. I own 5 motorcycles because I buy each one to fit a certain application. The same goes for my boats/watercraft, ATV's, snowmobiles, autos, and trucks.

I've received some very good information from some members of this forum and I thank you.
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