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post #1 of 45 Old 09-01-2006, 11:29 AM Thread Starter
 
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V-Strom a "throw away" bike?

There is a thread on another forum (comparing European bikes to Japanese) stating that all japanese adventure-touring bikes (including the V-Strom) are only good for 30K miles before the frame starts sagging and the engine needs rebuilding, and that they are basically "throw away" bikes.

Now I know the "BS" card needs to be thrown on that kind of comment, but I was wondering what some of you have gotten on your Stroms. Like what is the maximum mileage the Strom is capable of before a rebuild is necessary?

Anyone put 100K miles on a V-Strom yet?
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post #2 of 45 Old 09-01-2006, 01:36 PM
 
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There's a guy on SVRider.com who has way over 100,000 miles on the SV650 engine (same as DL650) with no problems whatsoever.

The DL frames can't "sag" :roll:
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There's a guy on SVRider.com who has way over 100,000 miles on the SV650 engine (same as DL650) with no problems whatsoever.

The DL frames can't "sag" :roll:
Heh, yeah, a molded Aluminum frame doesn't sag, it just asplodes. If your frame's not right, trust me, you'll notice. Also unless I'm totally missing something, the engine is a stressed member of the strom so unless you have one of those flexible engine blocks (fancy!) I think that the whole sag idea's pretty much shot.

30K is nothing on a japanese bike if you take even reasonably good care of it.

I am working on a flexible engine block design, though. It's my theory that if it dies, I'll rely on engine elasticity to bounce home. Boingy, boingy boingy boingy! :twisted:

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When you've spent 6 to 10 grand more for a bike than you need to, it sometimes becomes necessary to dream up some sort of BS to justify wasting all that money. Doesn't just apply to euro adventure bikes either :roll: A buddy of mine spent 30 grand+ on one of those ironwhore creations a few years ago which left him on the side of the road before he made it (40 miles)home. Money does not = quality or reliability in the moto world.

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HA! That's really funny..! Co-worker just had to have 'er BMW towed to the shop for some reaon or another. Not sure of the mileage, but nowhere near 100k..

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In 1991 one of my club's member had an XJ900. Over 100 000 Km in the clock. There was no even a small fume from the exhaust at all!
Japanese engines are rock solid. Same with their cars' engines BTW. But the maintenance is important.

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I've heard that very cheap people in Belgium buy Suzuki Swift (small car (Geo Metro in the US I guess)). They use it for 3 years (30-100k km) then throw it away. They NEVER do even an oil change!

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post #7 of 45 Old 09-01-2006, 04:23 PM
 
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Two thoughts:

1. If you're of the right mindset, and have enough money, to buy a very expensive bike, you're probably also the type who will take extraordinary care of the bike (maintenance, etc.), as a way of protecting your investment. Maybe that's one reason a $20,000 bike lasts longer than a $7,000 bike.

2. In the auto industry, customer satisfaction polls show that satisfaction ratings usually increase as the price of the car increases - ie. the more expensive your car, the more likely you are to express satisfaction with it in a poll.

Auto experts were perplexed by this because they knew there were lots of expensive cars that really stunk. Then the psychologists got involved... they discovered people rated their expensive cars higher, not because the car was better, but because they were embarrased to admit they paid that much money for a lousy car. Maybe the same with motorcycles?

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I have a suzuki 4x4 V6 Grand Vitara 1999.
200,000 km only does regular oil change, that's it.
Those Suzuki motors are trememdously good.

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I think we can say that today there is no bike with poor quality mechanical (I mean the metal parts of engines) parts (except maybe the russian Ural). This is due to improved technology, machines and material which is mostly used.
If you maintain it, it will last even longer that's clear. It doesn't depend on purchase price. It depends on the owners habit. I do (and have) regularly maintain(ed) all of my vehicles. And none of them are expensive.
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Today's bikes are becoming more and more equipped with electronics. And that is the weakest point IMO.

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I agree with your 2nd point. I guess that is part of snobbery?

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The other factor is that oils have improved out of all recognition. So there's no reason any Japanese engine, properly maintained, shouldn't reach 100K.
European bikes? You take your chances! And I'm speaking as an ex-GS owner!
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