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post #1 of 23 Old 05-31-2011, 06:54 PM Thread Starter
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This vs That....Which Used Bike?

So I've been searching here, over at ADVrider and elsewhere for the standard comparisons:
650 vs 1000
Strom vs BMW
etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...you get the picture.
One thing that I haven't read either because I couldn't find it our just didn't see it was which one you would buy used.

Obviously a new BMW compared to a new Strom are worlds apart, but used BMW's in many flavors can be had for $7k and under.

That being said, if you had $5k to spend, would you get the Strom again or try something else?

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You can buy a new Strom for the price of a used BMW. The BMW 800's don't come down to new Strom territory until they are at least 3 years old. Then there is the issue of how people ride them. Unless you know the guy, you will never know if his "shift points" were redline or he really took care of the bike.

As an example, I looked at a BMW R1150. The bike had 3,000 miles on it and the tires were worn far more on the side then the center. I walked way.

Last but not least, a few grand wont hurt to get a new bike and break it in properly. In my view, I rather spend a little more and keep it a little longer then be unhappy or unsure about it.
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I have the same question. I just sold my KLR650 in favor of a bigger bike. I am looking at the Wee and Ulysses and Versys and frankly any other bike in the category that I can afford.

So I second the question with an addition:

If you had $5K what would you buy?

If you had $6 or $7K would it be different?

I have more than a year to do the research so keep 'em coming.

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I had $5k a couple years ago and looked at all the bikes you mentioned and more and bought a strom. Without a doubt it is the best $5k bike on the market and you can get one for even less these days. The Ulysses runs like a tractor, the Versys is OK but can't do everything a strom can do. The bmw's are high mileage before they get to the 5k mark and if you are looking at this price point you can't afford the bmw maintenance anyway.

For 6 or 7K, I'd get some more farkles or take a trip on my Wee. A buddy has a Tiger 1050. This might be a nice bike for the cash if it fits your needs. For me it is too big to commute with.

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Very good points from Spartan and Bikefree.

For a particular price-point, the V-Strom has a lot going for it.
A new Strom beats a used BM-whatsit every time.
And a reasonably-cared-for second-hand Strom at lower age/mileage beats a reasonably-cared-for Whatsit at high age or mileage.

It's much more than a matter of running costs / maintenance & parts.
It's the reliability thing.

Speaking very generally, I'd rather be riding along the road and enjoying the whole motorbike experience (despite any minor imperfections, warts & blemishes) than standing alongside the most beautiful bike in the world, on a lonely road, listening to a rapidly cooling engine - and wondering how the hell I could deal with the "failing to proceed" problem which has just ruined the day [or the week, or the wallet too].
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It's much more than a matter of running costs / maintenance & parts.
The BMW's require high octane gas.

There is a fuel economy aspect to this, but more importantly, I've been places where we couldn't find "luxury gas" for my wife's Harley - at any price.

As far a seeing a bike that appears to have been ridden hard, I'd be more concerned that it 's had its regular servicing done. Ask for receipts. Worn tires can be the sign of an experienced rider/owner. Which could be a good thing.

An inexperienced rider is more likely to have dropped the thing a few times, albeit at low speed. A first-time owner is more likely to have not performed proper chain maintenance. Or to have winterized the bike correctly.

If I was bikeless and had $5,000 in my pocket, I'd look for the most farked ABS DL650 with the least miles.

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Awesome responses. I knew I could get the straight poop from members here. The guy at BMW Detroit was really drinking the cool-aid when I talked to him today. Very nice guy mind you, but when I asked him if I could do general maintenance, he said that I could do an oil change myself and anything else I would have to bring in for service.

The R1100RS and RT are cool looking bikes though.

Am thinking of selling my XR400...I just don't heal as quickly as I used to after taking spills on it. The proceeds from that plus another $3k and I'll be buying something different.

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Then there is the issue of how people ride them. Unless you know the guy, you will never know if his "shift points" were redline or he really took care of the bike.

As an example, I looked at a BMW R1150. The bike had 3,000 miles on it and the tires were worn far more on the side then the center. I walked way.

Last but not least, a few grand wont hurt to get a new bike and break it in properly. In my view, I rather spend a little more and keep it a little longer then be unhappy or unsure about it.
Honestly, those are good things in my mind. Someone who knows how to ride and pushes their machinery (especially if it's an expensive bike) will maintain it well, too. And it'll be more than "a few grand" for a new bike versus used.

As for the Detroit BMW dealer, well, it's not "drinking the kool-aid" if you can convince buyers that they 'need' to have the bike serviced at the dealer. It's salesmanship

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I was where you are now last fall. Over the last several years of having done the used Beemer thing and somewhat wish I hadn't, did the Harley/cruiser thing (fun for a while but quickly lost interest), & the naked sport bike thing (fun for 'round town & short trips but to me touring-challenged) & wanting to stay under $10k, I chose a gently used k9 Wee with ~8k miles. Unfortunately zero farkles. I think my budget would have to have been well over $12k to have possibly swayed me to another adv/tourer.

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You may not heal as fast as you once did, but none of those bikes will take you as far back into the boonies as the XR will. Keep the XR if you can and add the Wee. Then you've got all bases covered.

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