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post #1 of 19 Old 10-22-2010, 11:42 AM Thread Starter
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From a Bandit to V Strom?

It seems my insurance is writing off my beloved 1250 Bandit. Thanks lousy driver for hitting it.
I have been thinking of switching to a dual sport such as the DL1000.
My big concern is the engine difference. I love the grunt of the Bandit with power thru a wide powerband. How much different is the DL1000 in performance. Anyone here ridden both?

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You may discover, as I did coming off a BMW K1200GT to the Wee, that the fun in riding doesn't necessarily come from displacement or horsepower alone but from responsive and usable power. As they say, it's not how much power you have, it's how much you can use. I can't speak for the 1000 but the Wee has power through a wide band as you are looking for, just not unlimited power. You will find yourself using all the bike has at times, unlike your Bandit where it's unlikely you'd ever use all the power for more than a few seconds at a time. The 1000 sadly is destined to become a used-only bike as there are no signs they will continue to be made.

If you're patient and have a bit more of a budget you may want to look into the new Triumph Tiger 800, it's going to have all the grunt of your Bandit plus all the niceties of a DS and can be had in the spring for a couple thousand more than a new Wee. I suspect many of us here are going to give that bike a good hard look.

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You may discover, as I did coming off a BMW K1200GT to the Wee, that the fun in riding doesn't necessarily come from displacement or horsepower alone but from responsive and usable power. As they say, it's not how much power you have, it's how much you can use.

If you're patient and have a bit more of a budget you may want to look into the new Triumph Tiger 800, it's going to have all the grunt of your Bandit plus all the niceties of a DS and can be had in the spring for a couple thousand more than a new Wee. I suspect many of us here are going to give that bike a good hard look.
+1 to what Eye.Surgeon said...The Triumph looks to be a sweet bike, especially if you're partial to the Tiger. If you're a bit on the taller side the fit and ergos are fantastic. I'll be taking a good look myself.

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Well, I went from a Bandit to the Vee and I've been very happy. It is kind of apples and oranges though and I suggest you grab a ride on a 'Strom to see if it would work for you. I actually prefer the "twin grunt" and don't miss the four at all but this is so subjective that you're going to have to find out for your self. Best of luck!

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I'll have to find one to test ride I suppose. Test rode a Veradaro this summer. Great ride but little character. Also tested a Multistrada and fell in love but my wallet can't afford the $$
Definitely like the softer ride over bumps the dual sports offer for my skinny butt.
That being said I did put over 60,000 on the Bandit in just 3 cool Canadian summers. Love the engine but would like to see that power in a dual sport set up. The Ducati seems to have it but again price plus lack of dealer network makes me shy away.

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I'll have to find one to test ride I suppose. Test rode a Veradaro this summer. Great ride but little character. Also tested a Multistrada and fell in love but my wallet can't afford the $$
Definitely like the softer ride over bumps the dual sports offer for my skinny butt.
That being said I did put over 60,000 on the Bandit in just 3 cool Canadian summers. Love the engine but would like to see that power in a dual sport set up. The Ducati seems to have it but again price plus lack of dealer network makes me shy away.
The 1000 strom has decent grunt, but not too many bikes will have the low end and refined pull of that Bandit.

My Dad had a 1250 Bandit before the Strom, so I've ridden it a fair bit....very refined motor.

The real benefit surfaced when riding on less than ideal roads....not actual "off-road", even crappy pavement, with bumps & cracks....the Strom eats that stuff up & spits it out, where the Bandit's suspension really struggled.

Comfort wise, the Strom is a clear winner...for "me". Weather protection, with an aftermarket shield, really nice on the Strom, again, clear advantage.

The Bandit is a good bike, so all I can suggest, which is echoing others, go ride a Strom.
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I came from an FJ1200, which I'm thinking is quite comparable to the bandit.

Initially I was not pleased with the performance of the DL1000. The bike was used and abused, and currently performs almost on par with the FJ. Low end power is better on the DL. Top is lagging quite a bit, not surprisingly.

What I like most about the DL is the ease with which it can make left right transitions. The FJ was quite a handful on quick direction changes. The DL is actually a lot of fun treating it like a dirtbike, or supermoto. (I'm talking about counter balancing)
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If you know your hooked on a powerful bike, I would skip the wee. Its a very fun bike and has a huge fun factor but after 6 months I am selling mine as I miss that feel of intoxicating power. I would definatly look at a V, or if outside suzuki then Super Tenere, or the tiger (either the 1050 or the 800). I had myself convinced for a while that I didnt need to go fast or need alot of power but horsepower is like a drug in your system, no matter how many programs you enlist in and try to quite, once your addicted your addicted for life.

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If you know your hooked on a powerful bike, I would skip the wee. Its a very fun bike and has a huge fun factor but after 6 months I am selling mine as I miss that feel of intoxicating power. I would definatly look at a V, or if outside suzuki then Super Tenere, or the tiger (either the 1050 or the 800). I had myself convinced for a while that I didnt need to go fast or need alot of power but horsepower is like a drug in your system, no matter how many programs you enlist in and try to quite, once your addicted your addicted for life.
I've seen the Super Tenere in mags but they have yet to hit the shores over here so I doubt I can find one in my price range. Looks like an interesting bike though.
I am also looking into swapping suspension to make the Bandit a bit more multi-use and am checking into rebuilding it. The motor is too good to just walk away from.

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My 5 or 6 previous bikes have been the bandit's parents (80s suzuki GS1100/1150).
I bought a wee two years ago, and I love it. I had tried the vee, but coming off a gs1100 with a suped up 1150 motor, it thought it was utterly gutless.

I took a one year break from riding which enabled me to forget what a powerful biek felt like, that the lack of power offered by the wee is not that big a deal anymore.

If you want it to be as smooth as the bandit, get the wee, if you need more than 65 some hp, get the vee which will give you 15 to 20 more...

It's hard to tell which bike is better thoguh between the strom and the bandit.
If you care about paying less (and lower insurance and gas bills), get the wee. If you want a litre bike, I'd go for the bandit.

In my opinion, the strom is not really any better than the bandit on a gravel road; actually, my wee scares me at 40 km/h on gravel while I could ride my 16" front wheeled gsx1150 at an easy 80 on similar roads.
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