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post #1 of 12 Old 07-16-2006, 04:48 PM Thread Starter
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MSF experienced rider course

Yesterday I completed the MSF Experienced Rider Course. In the past, I had thought about completing this course, but something always seemed to interfere. My job requires it if I am to use my motorcycle at its location.

It started promptly at 8:00AM and lasted to about 3:00PM. There were riders on just about all types of bikes, including a Suzuki 650 scooter and of course my DL650.

I am very glad that I spent the 75 dollars for the course as it re-enforced what I was doing correctly, but moreover it showed where I had picked up some bad habits that with the right set of circumstances could increase my risk of getting more closely aquainted with the pavement. Like all things in life, there are always improvements to be made as you learn any skill and want to better master it.

If you have never completed this course, I give it a high recommendation. I wish everyone a safe riding experience.
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post #2 of 12 Old 07-17-2006, 08:51 PM
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I very glad to hear that you took the time to attend an Experienced Rider Course. I've both taken and taught the course. I must say that it is the best way to spend a day on your bike - learning more about it and yourself! Just basic stuff - turning, stopping, cornering and the multiple curves - my favorite.

Sure do wish more folks would come out and participate.

One day, I will have a class full of 'Stromtroopers for an ERC! I can make the arrangements.
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post #3 of 12 Old 07-17-2006, 09:16 PM
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I'm signed up for one on September 30. Gotta ride some more between now and then Really looking forward to it though.

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post #4 of 12 Old 07-17-2006, 10:30 PM
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I'm gonna take one at the end of the riding season here after i've racked up a few miles. I'm hoping to have about 8000 miles under my belt before I take it.
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post #5 of 12 Old 07-18-2006, 01:38 AM
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IMHO, I'd recommend taking the ERC ASAP. I think you guys are overrating what "experienced" means. Take it now before your bad habits get worse. Nonetheless, glad to head more Stromtroopers are going to the ERC. As hamradioman said, it is time & money well spent.

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post #6 of 12 Old 07-18-2006, 09:33 AM
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Unfortunatly, it isn't offered nearly as often as the BRC. The next one I can find here in Ga. is not until October..

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post #7 of 12 Old 07-18-2006, 10:39 AM
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There is a reason for that - lack of demand for the class.

At our school - Central Florida Safety Council - we have it listed, but no classes scheduled. When we get folks to sign up for one, we will schedule one.

Most people do not know that in Florida - I know this as this is where my certification is - you can take the ERC and then the written and skill eval and get your motorcycle endorsement. All done in a day on your bike!

However, if you have never really ridden - we don't care what you say, we can tell when a rider has never ridden - I would strongly suggest that you take the BRC. It focuses on the basics of safe motorcycle operation.

If you have ridden some, or it's been awhile since you've taken any training, I would strongly suggest you sign up for the ERC. Let someone watch you ride and then give you pointers on how to be better. It's not just some rhetorical commentary either, it is measureable by you! You see how many feet it takes you to stop your way. Then when the coach asks you to try something for them and you stop in 3 feet less distance - yes you can see the difference!

Still would like to put together an all 'Strom class. Heck, I'd do it even without compensation just to see it done, take pictures and post them here!
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post #8 of 12 Old 07-18-2006, 02:26 PM
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I'm taking the beginners class this weekend. Hopefully it'll teach me alot and correct whatever bad habits I have. Next year, I'll take the ERC. FWIW, I've only been riding since 5/2001...2 bikes and about 33,000 miles (only ~12,500 on the Strom, since October). I'm pretty excited about it. I bought the book "Proficient Motorcycling" and it has already brought to light many things that I was doing incorrectly....being self tought and all.

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post #9 of 12 Old 07-18-2006, 03:09 PM
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Requiring the BRC before anyone can register a bike on Camp Pendleton is definitely one of the things that the base safety personnel does right. Having my bike sit for 2 weeks in the garage while I was waiting for my class date pretty much sucked but after the completion of the class I was glad I ended up having to wait. For the people who have bikes registered on Pendleton, the BRC covers you for one year then you are required to take the ERC. In fact, after you complete the BRC, the sticker that you have to put on your bike to get onto base is only good for a year so it pretty much makes you have to take the ERC within that time frame. The ERC sticker is good for 2 years then you have to take the ERC again. It's one day away from work and on the bike so not too many people complain except those who think they know all there is to know about riding. I took my BRC in March 2005 and did the ERC in November of 05. I am deployed for a year overseas in a wonderful little corner of the world and not riding so I'm planning on getting into the ERC course again just to refresh everything when I return. That'll cover me for 2 more years. Since it is a requirement to have the BRC & ERC to register a bike on base, the classes are free to AD military and family. The instructors are a mix of active duty military and civillians. It is the DMV approved course so we aren't getting off easy. The instructors will turn away a student whose bike doesn't pass a safety inspection, and they will also tell someone if they shouldn't be in the ERC and will schedule that person for the next BRC if they are that uncomfortable on the bike. OK, long post here....The BRC and ERC are definitely worth every minute!! Don't hesitate to take the course. You owe it to yourself, your family and your fellow riders.

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Re: MSF experienced rider course

Originally Posted by hamradioman
but moreover it showed where I had picked up some bad habits that with the right set of circumstances could increase my risk of getting more closely aquainted with the pavement.
So what were some of the bad habits you picked up?
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