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post #1 of 152 Old 06-16-2010, 02:17 PM Thread Starter
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What's with running high beams!

Just had a V-strom follow me thru traffic for about 20 miles on a 2 lane road. The rider had on his high beams and effectively blinded me on and off ever time I looked in my rear view mirrors (I was in the cage). I understand the twisted logic that feels one will be seen better with the high beams on, but I for one don't buy it. The high beams are so bright that other drivers are just going to look away quicker and won't be able to judge your distance or speed. As a long time rider of 35 years I was annoyed, I can just imagine how non-riders would feel. If your not confident enough in your skills to avoid the crazies at least purchase a headlight modulator.
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Wow, how weird to find this posted today. Just yesterday was in front of an FJR1300 with his HB's on. I was thinking the same dag gone thing! NOT NECESSARY! Funny thing is, I don't think he does it for better safety as he and his passenger were wearing shorts, tank tops and sneakers!
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I think a lot of us old guys were trained to ride with high beams back in the day when headlights were not as bright as they are now. And with two modern-design headlights on the Strom it really is overkill to run with the high beams on.

We have that cool trigger for flashing the high beams, but it doesn't work if they are already on. I use it to flash cars that look like they might pull out in front of me.


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He's just following what your MA RMV told him to do:

source: http://www.mass.gov/rmv/motorcycle/tips.htm

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Keeping these ideas in mind can help prevent accidents with automobile drivers.

Help drivers know you're there.

Don't assume you are visible to a driver. As a motorcyclist, it is your responsibility to make your presence known to drivers. Select and wear an appropriate helmet with retroreflective materials. A DOT-approved motorcycle helmet is your most valuable piece of protective gear and should be visible to drivers. Wear bright, contrasting protective clothing. If you wear dark clothing, wear a fluorescent vest.

Use headlights while riding on the highway, and use high beams rather than low beams. Also consider a modulating headlight.

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Last year when I went through the MSF course we were specifically told to use high beam for the above mentioned reason.

Recently following my wife in her car for 1.5 hours with my LOW beam on she commented that she did not know my headlights were that visible. Probably I have to re-think of riding with high beams on.

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The rider had on his high beams and effectively blinded me on and off ever time I looked in my rear view mirrors (I was in the cage).
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Shining very bright lights into people’s eyes is a form of camouflage. The military has experimented with it as far back as WW2 (not totally sure of when.)

I could agree that high beams should be used on my 1969 Norton Commando as the lights were truly pathetic and the same can be said of many older bikes.

However, many modern bikes, Stroms included, have lights that are so bright in high beam they mask the bike that is behind them.

Drivers of other vehicles now only know there is a bright light in their eyes. They don't know what is causing it, and if a vehicle they can't tell the type of vehicle, the speed, location, and the direction it is travelling. In other words, the bike rider has managed to hide the very information that might help another driver avoid hitting them.

I strongly encourage riders to use the low beams unless high beams are required (night driving with no oncoming vehicles.)

Also reading the articles on SMIDSY below would give people a good idea of what they can do to increase their survival odds.



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Just had a V-strom follow me thru traffic for about 20 miles on a 2 lane road. The rider had on his high beams and effectively blinded me on and off ever time I looked in my rear view mirrors (I was in the cage).
Are you so sure that they were actually high-beams and not just improperly adjusted headlights? How many people actually check the adjustment of their headlight aiming? Were there two people on the bike? That will raise the aim of the headlights (which is why some bikes have panel-mounted adjusters for them).

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I rode for 2 years with my LB's on until I rode with another strom behind me with his HB on and a kid on the back and they were not too bright so since that time I've been riding with my brites on, I also have lights down on the forks. I also asked another rider in front of me if my lights were too brite and he said they were OK. The other day I had a harley coming at me and his lights were too bright. Check your lights and you decide.
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