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post #1 of 108 Old 06-05-2010, 01:24 PM Thread Starter
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post #2 of 108 Old 06-05-2010, 03:46 PM
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Never rode a strom w/ ABS, but I have been on a few BMWs w/. Never got to test the front under ABS operation but I have smashed on the rear while leaned over several times. Basically after the initial minor rear tire shift to the outside of the turn, it feels like the rear brake is doing little.

IMHO if MC ABS has the significant model-to-model variability as automotive ABS does, then it'll be hard to tell w/o going out on a wet day and mashing on the brakes to test it yourself. (Try telling a dealer that's what you want to do.)

Really interested to hear from others who have really tested their ABS on wet/sandy roads at speed. Esp. the front tire.
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A couple of months ago, I was riding in the N GA mtns. There were spots with sand in the road. I got into a corner, and as I was starting to lean the bike, I ran over some sand I hadn't seen. The rear wheel started to slide out, and I hit the brakes, front and rear. The rear ABS kicked in, and the bike just started to stand up. I regained control and continued on.

This is my first bike with ABS, and I really think it saved my butt that day. Not sure about it though, to be honest. It may be that there wasn't much sand, and that I had gotten through it when I hit the brakes. No way to tell, but personally I think the ABS saved me. As far as I'm concerned, it's a great thing.

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That's mighty impressive, but only tells one side of the story.

I like the way the non abs riders intentionally lock the front brake, tilt the bike, and turn the front wheel upon entering the gravel/sand to get the most dramatic negative effect.

Very objective testing.

Ok, I bit. :mrgreen:
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That's mighty impressive, but only tells one side of the story.

I like the way the non abs riders intentionally lock the front brake, tilt the bike, and turn the front wheel upon entering the gravel/sand to get the most dramatic negative effect.

Very objective testing.

Ok, I bit. :mrgreen:
I suspect (but don't know) the riders were told to mash the brakes as hard as humanly possible. That would explain the results seen. Looked like a pretty wild ride on the non-abs bike.

I'm a fan of ABS and would love to have it on the Vee.


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The video certainly proves that if your mash your front brakes and lock your tire you are going to hit the ground if you don't get off the lever. There is a write up on new Yamaha Super Tenre on ADV. The guy doing the write up disabled the ABS and was making shorter stops on dirt with out it. Don't get me wrong if it were available for the 1000 I would probably have it.

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I much prefer ABS, but it was not on the DL1000, and I could not find a nice DL650 with it. My last 3 bikes have had it and it worked well. panic stops are just that. Seconds are lost IMO without it and I am not getting younger either.
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There is a write up on new Yamaha Super Tenre on ADV. The guy doing the write up disabled the ABS and was making shorter stops on dirt with out it. .
I dont think of ABS as a tool to make shorter stops in planned conditions. Its already been proved that in planned operation in dry condiitons a non ABS can outstop an ABS. However, ABS is there for emergency use and in my opinion cheap insurance. It should never be relied on and only operate in a, "Oh sh1t" moment. The kind of time you time you find skidmarks in your underpants. I would like to put the same guy in a, "oh sh1it" moment like going around a blind turn wet with some light sand on the road with a truck pulling out on the road. That might change the results a bit IMO.

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I would not want a car that did not have it
so for me.....YES
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