Originally Posted by CoastalDefender
Okay, I have read the excrement out of everything I can find on here, ADV, and ThumperTalk...
I think I have narrowed it down to the TKC-80 and Karoo T sets.
My use will be mostly street, and much of the time that street is wet up here in the PNW. However, I absolutely demand decent performance in Mud... (because we have that up here too)
I understand tread life is crap on both of these, but that is not a massive consideration since they seem to be within range of each other.
The question I still can't seem to get a concrete answer on is which would be better on wet tarmac and still perform decent in the mud?
Please don't stone me...
Well everyones definition of mud is different but.....
I can tell you TKC's do just fine in mud.
These pics were done with TKC's and the rear only had a few mm of tread left. Even going up hills, with plenty of tire speed there was plenty of traction.
BUT... The rear tires traction will be the least of your worries.
With much of any mud at all you will need to remove your front fender or you will clog it up in no time and lock up your front wheel, then usually breaking your fender in the process.
The strom is heavy and in heavy mud will want to slip on its side pretty fast. Keeping your feet low and dabbing the ground to keep things upright is key.
Remove your fork brace to if you use one before going into prolonged mud.
Even with both removed in really tacky mud it will wad up around the forks and stop your tire from turning eventually. I just let it lock up and keep the throttle rolling. :mrgreen:
Shinko 705's are ok if your not really getting into much mud.
In the conditions in these pics they are worthless and will leave you stranded. I just ran 705's on my trip to the east coast. They were the first non knobbies i've ran on the bike since the 90 mile trip home with the stockers.
I've run more a more aggressive rear(Mitas E-09) on the rear and the TKC's are a good compromise tire. Decent in mud but much smoother on the slab.
If your not really going to do much mud then 705's will be smoother, much cheaper and last longer.