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post #1 of 27 Old 04-26-2010, 09:47 PM Thread Starter
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Too Much Rear Brake??

I posted last week about a slight slide out as I was slowing down to make a turn, I attributed it to low air in the rear tire. The tire was completely flat the next day, from what I suspect was a stuck valve stem core? since been fine. the tires are fairly new. I think it ws a coincidence

I've had the same feeling since 2-3 times, with the tires at correct psi? Getting scared thinking somethings wrong with the bike. It's only ntoced when I'm slowing to turn

I'm thinking I may be using to much rear brake, I always use both, but will too much rear brake cause that? Or something similar? I've never experienced this until recently.
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Too much (i.e. locking up) rear brake could do it. So can down shifting if you cause a compression skid. Have you recently changed bikes? It took me a while to get used to the more positive brakes on the V strom after coming off the KLR.
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I went from a Honda Shadow(2 years) to the Wee, back in maybe September? I only recently have had these issues though

I downshift too. so that alone is enough to feel that skid feeling, or a sharp downshift with a little to much rear brake?
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I can't imagine unintentionally locking the rear ever being a good thing, but I do it purposely quite often. I'm guessing a low tire would be slightly less prone to lock up, not sure though if it's almost flat.
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I really doubt it was braking. A handy thing to get are O ring stem caps. Keeps the air if in the event of a failure of the core.
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I posted last week about a slight slide out as I was slowing down to make a turn, I attributed it to low air in the rear tire. The tire was completely flat the next day, from what I suspect was a stuck valve stem core? since been fine. the tires are fairly new. I think it ws a coincidence

I've had the same feeling since 2-3 times, with the tires at correct psi? Getting scared thinking somethings wrong with the bike. It's only ntoced when I'm slowing to turn

I'm thinking I may be using to much rear brake, I always use both, but will too much rear brake cause that? Or something similar? I've never experienced this until recently.
Personally I find it hard to lock my rear wheel with the rear brake. I often practice emergency stops with both brakes and also just stopping hard with the rear brake to find out where the skid point is. The only time I was able to do it was coming down my gravel driveway and it was just a small skid. I don't know if it's my brakes or what. I do find it VERY easy to over brake with my front brake and that's a little scary.

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I locked the rear wheel a few times during the first week I had my Wee. My previous bike was a Buell Ulysses with a rear brake that didn't really do anything, so I was used to leaning on the rear brake a lot harder than I need to now.

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I also locked up both front and rear a few times when I first got my Wee. The OEM tyres aren't that sticky, especially if you come off a more road focussed bike.
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Personally I find it hard to lock my rear wheel with the rear brake. I often practice emergency stops with both brakes and also just stopping hard with the rear brake to find out where the skid point is. The only time I was able to do it was coming down my gravel driveway and it was just a small skid. I don't know if it's my brakes or what. I do find it VERY easy to over brake with my front brake and that's a little scary.
I would get your rear brake checked. My bike locks up the rear very quickly with moderate pressure on all surfaces.
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Last week I locked up the rear brake and the result was a skid. I was riding on a backroad I ride quite often and was coming up on an intersection where my next turn was. I must have been "zoning" out because I was enjoying the ride. When I snapped back to reality,I realized I was running out of braking distance. I quickly and firmly began applying both brakes and downshifted at the same time to use compression braking to help the slowing process. I then felt the rear skid slightly and released the pressure on the rear brake and was able to save it and make the turn safely. Two things I realized: 1- when the rear began to skid I did not feel the rear tire lock up. My conclusion was that the rear brakes feel "numb" and did not provide any feedback. 2- Upon downshifting for compression braking it helped contribute to the loss of traction combined with the firm braking. Other than that, I have never locked up the rear brakes before that. So, IMO it was the result of rear brakes with very little feel and feedback and compression braking. BTW, I went back to see how long the skidmark was; about 10 ft.

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