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post #1 of 11 Old 04-21-2010, 02:30 PM
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How to set your Vee on fire:

... just ride it until the stock back brake line fails right at the bend coming out of the cylinder. When you push the pedal down, it will squirt brake fluid all over the hot exhaust pipe against which the brake line itself practically lays, and at which the banjo bolt is aimed.

If you're lucky like me, the plastic guide will catch fire.

It's helpful if you can limp into a Suzuki dealership that doesn't stock brake lines
They apparently have a policy of happily supplying you with the bucket of water if you run into the dealership and tell them your bike is on fire in front of their store.
After you throw a bucket of water on it, you can disconnect the pedal (to avoid future accidental discharges) and zip-tie the hose to the frame to keep it away from the exhaust pipe. Be sure to round off the banjo bolt first with the POS wrench in the tool kit while trying pointlessly to pull the brake line.

Ask the dealer if he wants to take a slightly used Vee as a trade in on a new one - that earns the story about there are NO Stroms left anywhere - and the one sitting on his showroom floor is already sold, so don't even look at it.

That should allow you to make the 40 miles home to order Galfer SS brake lines. If you stick to the slab, the wind will prevent the flames from returning.
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post #2 of 11 Old 04-21-2010, 02:48 PM
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Thanks for the heads up, I'm sure many lines will get a check tonight

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Where'd your MC bolt go?

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Where'd your MC bolt go?
In a baggie in my tank bag, along with the clevis pin and mc guard. I wasn't of a mind to put it all back together just to have to take it apart again when I replace the line. The bike sits until then anyway - just had to make it home - altho with the luck I've had today, I'm surprised that one bolt didn't vibrate out and leave my brake master cylinder whipping the old horse down the highway.
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When you do remove the old lines, can you take pics of the damage? That'd be much appreciated. Curious of the cause and extent of damage.

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that stupid guide/guard broke on me. the aligning pin that goes into the swing arm snapped. the hose got hung up on the guide and kinked, made the pedal dead. i stomped on it, that's when the pin broke. the dumb guard then rotated and hit the ehaust pipe and melted through. after it melted away, it was the brake line's turn. luckily i discovered it after the protective sleeve melted but before the actual brake line hit.

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that stupid guide/guard broke on me. the aligning pin that goes into the swing arm snapped. the hose got hung up on the guide and kinked, made the pedal dead. i stomped on it, that's when the pin broke. the dumb guard then rotated and hit the ehaust pipe and melted through. after it melted away, it was the brake line's turn. luckily i discovered it after the protective sleeve melted but before the actual brake line hit.
I don't have it apart yet to see, but that plastic shark-fin thing is what seemed to be burning. And it WAS rotated out of the plane of the swingarm and against the pipe. The screw holding it was loose. The brake line itself was pushed up against it and ruptured, but it's not obvious yet how that happened.

Having read your post, I will definitely follow up with some pics and a post-mordem - sounds like this is a possible failure mode and easily preventable. Aside: after reading about someone's chain guard getting eaten, I checked mine - sure enough, loose screws and mine could easily have been the next in line.

I'm still a little surprised to learn that brake fluid is apparently flammable.
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I don't have it apart yet to see, but that plastic shark-fin thing is what seemed to be burning. And it WAS rotated out of the plane of the swingarm and against the pipe. The screw holding it was loose. The brake line itself was pushed up against it and ruptured, but it's not obvious yet how that happened.

Having read your post, I will definitely follow up with some pics and a post-mordem - sounds like this is a possible failure mode and easily preventable. Aside: after reading about someone's chain guard getting eaten, I checked mine - sure enough, loose screws and mine could easily have been the next in line.

I'm still a little surprised to learn that brake fluid is apparently flammable.

i bet the brake line didn't rupture but burned through after the guard failed. either way you're looking at $60 in parts.

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i bet the brake line didn't rupture but burned through after the guard failed. either way you're looking at $60 in parts.
I wouldn't be surprised. The area of the 'rupture' (I only looked at it for a second to confirm that it was fubar) was weird - layers, irregular hole, almost delaminated-looking.

Now that I think of it, this also suggests a burn thru: I'd been riding a couple hours - the brakes were fine. It didn't fade, it just wasn't there at all the last time I applied it. I'd think that if the line failed from age or something, it would fade a few times (or at least once), or be a slow leak detectable for some time before it was gone. It went from 'normal' to 'nothing' with no 'spongy' in between.
Just not being there at all after moving for a while supports the idea that the line was cooking away unbeknownst to me as I was moving.

Again: open flames were involved, so even if it looks burnt, I won't know whether it burned thru causing failure, or failed then burned afterward.

Galfer stainless replacement line (with new banjo bolts and crush washers) was $54 from my local dealer.
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Steve...

Thanks for posting this. I checked mine tonight and all is clear.

Glad you're OK and again, thanks for sharing this info!!

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