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post #1 of 22 Old 10-06-2009, 11:39 AM Thread Starter
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How to ride a wee offroad

Ok did some searching but found squat.

so plan on taking the wee on gravel roads and some trails. Nothing to extreme else I would get a dirt bike. but never done offroad ever and the wee an't a dirt bike so betting this a bit different as well. So how do you ride off tarmac, any tips recommendations or links please post it up.
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post #2 of 22 Old 10-06-2009, 11:46 AM
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I have a DVD on dual sport techniques that has some good info and some good exercises to practice. I can't recall the name of it but Google is your friend. On tip that I was given when I made the move from street to gravel (on my KLR) was "throttle". It will either solve the problem or end the suspense. Other tips: Hold the bars loosely, let the bike move under you, weight the outside peg in corners, stand up when it gets rough. The techniques are the same whether it be a small dirt bike or a GS 1200, just the execution becomes a little more difficult.
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Just try to relax. Let the tire pressure down to about 18 front and 20 rear. Have a way to re-air them when you hit pavement. When in doubt, throttle out.

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relax, the bike will feel a bit squirrely at first and you'll get use to that eventually. takes some time. wait til the rear starts sliding around, that's pretty crazy feeling at first, but fun later on. do like the other guys said at first..air down a bit..it will build more of a footing for you to plant your tires on, however, there are goods and bads in doing this as you progress into rougher stuff. for now I'd keep it to gravel roads and avoid the trail thing til you build some confidence and go with someone else as well. take your time..it's an experience.

the faster you go the more stable you'll feel the bike as well..that's not to say that going fast is the answer (of course that decreases your stopping on slippery / loose surface too some fuzzy creature or otherwise come about. but it's a theory you can try for short stents to see how it makes you feel in the straights.


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All good advice. Every so often when I get onto dirt or gravel roads I have to spend some time reminding myself what to do, and what not to do, because as soon as the bike starts squirrelling around my instinctive reaction is to go for the brakes and clench everything.

The right thing to do is to maintain light hands on the bars, get off the seat, keep knees and elbows a little bent, drop a gear to keep the revs up to make use of the torquier end of the rev range, look far ahead and plan for the potholes (standing makes this easier), aim where you want to go, use more back brake than usual, and, quoting from the Hithhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, DON'T PANIC!

I did an off-road and trials training day through www.trailtour.com a couple of years ago. It runs through the Ganaraska Forest, about an hour and a half drive from you in Brampton. It helped my messy road riding immensely, and was a ton of fun. Clinton Smout runs a similar program near Horseshoe Valley (www.cmts.org).

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All good advice. Every so often when I get onto dirt or gravel roads I have to spend some time reminding myself what to do, and what not to do, because as soon as the bike starts squirrelling around my instinctive reaction is to go for the brakes and clench everything.

The right thing to do is to maintain light hands on the bars, get off the seat, keep knees and elbows a little bent, drop a gear to keep the revs up to make use of the torquier end of the rev range, look far ahead and plan for the potholes (standing makes this easier), aim where you want to go, use more back brake than usual, and, quoting from the Hithhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, DON'T PANIC!

I did an off-road and trials training day through www.trailtour.com a couple of years ago. It runs through the Ganaraska Forest, about an hour and a half drive from you in Brampton. It helped my messy road riding immensely, and was a ton of fun. Clinton Smout runs a similar program near Horseshoe Valley (www.cmts.org).

yeah..ment to mention..for the time being, try standing to focus your center of gravity more and do not grab a fistful of front brake..you'll wash the front out pretty quick if you do. websites and videos are awesome if you can't take a class nearby. took a course myself and also went to http://www.dualsportriding.com/ and bought the beginner video there which pretty much covers the basics that were taught to me all over again. a nice resource to follow back to if need be or for someone just starting to get a general idea if they don't have courses / friends that are offered nearby to help.


you may cover 200 or more miles a day pavement easy...dirt / gravel and trails you'll find is a bit more fatiguing with the reminders in your head and the constant correcting, standing, etc. you'll get it. but don't expect to go conquering a huge day of dirt/ trails and gravel your first day out.

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The only bit of dirt/ gravel road riding advice I ever got:

"The back end is going to fishtail around - don't worry about it - just put your weight forward and let it do it's thing."
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All good advice. Every so often when I get onto dirt or gravel roads I have to spend some time reminding myself what to do, and what not to do, because as soon as the bike starts squirrelling around my instinctive reaction is to go for the brakes and clench everything.

The right thing to do is to maintain light hands on the bars, get off the seat, keep knees and elbows a little bent, drop a gear to keep the revs up to make use of the torquier end of the rev range, look far ahead and plan for the potholes (standing makes this easier), aim where you want to go, use more back brake than usual, and, quoting from the Hithhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, DON'T PANIC!

I did an off-road and trials training day through www.trailtour.com a couple of years ago. It runs through the Ganaraska Forest, about an hour and a half drive from you in Brampton. It helped my messy road riding immensely, and was a ton of fun. Clinton Smout runs a similar program near Horseshoe Valley (www.cmts.org).
I almost did this one (www.trailtour.com) 2 months back, friend was going to go but he found his cash flow was to low so bailed so I never went. I am planing on a course tho.

I actulay had some graval road fun the weekend, pack of 20-30 of us doing a fal colors run, one road was 2km of graval, poor sucker infront of me on sport bike was having a bad time, another sport bike, friend of mine broke bracket holding onto the tail pipe on. Myself, the 1200gs up front and the url behind me where havign a great time so for that fun squerley tail thing going but no issues. It was just a straight line run but I enjoyed it, but since ural and I where the sweep of the pack we could not speed up to what we wanted to do lol.
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