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post #1 of 26 Old 09-27-2009, 06:18 AM Thread Starter
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50 watt bixenon HID upgrade

Going to order these for my 2008 DL650 VStrom unless someone knows why it may be a bad idea:
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50W SLIM BIXENON HID KIT: $145

Size (50W) :H4
Color temperture : 5,000K

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2 X 50w Slim Digital Ballasts
2 X 50w HID lamps and wire harness
2 fixing pads screws and wiring's
Instruction manual and warranty card
Warranty: 1 year
I had also considered asking if they have 3,000K 50 watt bulbs, which would produce a yellow light:

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Ah and good news, they have 50 watt yellow bulbs as well! Whatcha think? I know you lose some light output with the yellow bulbs, but @ 50 watt they're still surely more than bright enough, and I would think would be really conspicuous.

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Yes,we can offer 3000K (yellow golden) kit, no additioanal cost ,thanks

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Forget the yellow go the 4300

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Forget the yellow go the 4300
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much better choice!

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4300 has a bit of a yellow tint to it. 5000K is only a tiny fraction less bright, but is a more pure white light that would match my auxiliary LEDs.

I know they are the brightest though, thats why on my Vette I got 35W 5000K fogs and low beams and 50W 4300K high beams.

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4300 has a bit of a yellow tint to it.
4300k is supposed to be daylight. I'd go in the direction of 5000k as an alternative.

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I haven't used these myself, but I've read a number of warnings about retrofitting a headlight designed for halogen bulbs with HID. If the light source isn't in exactly the same spot as the filament in a standard H4, the light pattern will be off and likely a nuisance to other drivers.

Another issue is using HID for the high beam as well. If it uses a separate arc (rather than moving the bulb as some do), you won't be able to "flash to pass" since it takes a few moments for the arc to fire up.

As far as color temperature goes, the bluer lights (5000K and above) seem brighter, but actually do not improve vision over daylight-color bulbs. Stick with the neutral 4300K, unless you do a lot of riding in inclement weather -- then the yellow might actually help. And IMHO it's better for conspicuity if your headlights and aux lights are not exactly the same color, that way they stand out more.

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my understanding was that 5000-6500k was 'daylight'

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I haven't used these myself, but I've read a number of warnings about retrofitting a headlight designed for halogen bulbs with HID. If the light source isn't in exactly the same spot as the filament in a standard H4, the light pattern will be off and likely a nuisance to other drivers.
Yup, thats my biggest fear. I have had good results on two cars though. Problem is, I can't seem to find anyone that says, "Here, use this brand, they stick very close to factory". :nonod:
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Another issue is using HID for the high beam as well. If it uses a separate arc (rather than moving the bulb as some do), you won't be able to "flash to pass" since it takes a few moments for the arc to fire up.
These are simply telescoping, so not an issue, but even on the GENIVs out now thats no longer a big deal unless you flash religiously.
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my understanding was that 5000-6500k was 'daylight'
Nah, the 4300Ks are closer. They have superior lumen output as well, but it is countered IMO by the whiter light being perceived as brighter. Most LEDs are closer to 6K HIDs in appearance, but 5K I think is a nice compromise between looking "pure" and pumpin out the lumens, heh. Definitely sold on that, but was bouncing back and forth on the pure yellow light, since I've never used it. Think I'll skip it, since its getting no praise.

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.... but was bouncing back and forth on the pure yellow light, since I've never used it. Think I'll skip it, since its getting no praise.
I've used yellow bulbs on a previous bike and both my stroms at one time or another, entirely for increased conspicuity. On each of the stroms, before I installed aux lights I swapped the left headlight bulb with a Nokya Hyper Yellow at 2500K. I actually like the combination of yellow and white light (the other headlight had a SilverStar) -- it seems to help me see irregularities in the road surface better, and of course it makes the bike a bit more visible in traffic. I wouldn't use yellow bulbs for both though, since they're not legal in the US for primary headlights.

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