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post #1 of 39 Old 09-14-2009, 04:43 AM Thread Starter
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Thumbs down DL650 sucks in the rain. hardcore.

I've had the 650 for just a couple of months and I've put 3k miles or so on it since i've gotten it. It's finally started raining a little bit here and I have to say I am not impressed at all with this thing's ability to stop. You can barely brake at all without the front end locking up and trying to tuck under you. The front end locking up is a serious problem for me when I need to stop in a hurry. I'm guessing the reason they make an ABS model is because these bikes lock up the front so damn easy. I still have the stock tires and I haven't put any fork emulators in yet either so the front suspension dive combined with the shitty rubber probably isn't helping.

Is there anything that can be done to help avoid this? I brake very smoothly with little or not weight on my arms. I ride at the track very often and practice smooth brake application. I'm just really amazed that my R6 and Ninja 250 both out brake the DL650 without locking up their front tires in the rain and they have about half the suspension travel.

I've also played with using my rear brake at the same time to take some load of the front but it just makes both ends of the bike feel light.
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post #2 of 39 Old 09-14-2009, 05:31 AM
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Hmm..

Never had that problem. The fork dive is standard fare. As far as keeping the rubber stuck to the road, it seems better rubber would the key. What tires are you running?

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post #3 of 39 Old 09-14-2009, 05:40 AM
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This summer, or whatever you can call this crappy weather, it has rained probably about 40% of the time here. Needless to say I have ridden every day rain or shine. I haven't had any problems at all with braking. Actually I think this bike handles the wet weather handling wise better than my other two. Maybe your tires? The only thing that sucks about this bike in the rain for me is wet crotch. It seems like water likes to migrate to the front of the seat and soak right through my rain suit. I haven't ridden a true sportbike, so maybe they are better at braking in the rain. Might still be a case of just getting used to this particular bike.

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Thats really strange, I've never had that happen in any rain/wet conditions. How new are the tires and what tire pressure are you running?

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Been riding my bike daily, 20000km (heavy) rain, sun, cold, heat for nearly 2 years now. No problem with braking/steering. Must admit that since I got new tires at around 15000km it's handled better. The stock trailwing was ok, but the michelin anakee's are heaps better. In summer use front brake only, in winter (wet) use a combo of app 70%front/30%rear brakes at the same time, and not too heavy.

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Soggy... if you still have the stock tires, they actually do pretty well in wet weather braking. Maybe you just need to practice. Find an empty road that's generally void of traffic or a school lot and start to practice.....after 6 or 8 runs you will get to the point where you can very quickly, get the brakes right to the point before lockup. You mentioned that you're being smooth...that's good....you just need to stay smooth and be able to get to that pre-lock point quicker. Just avoid the usual suspects like any type of paint or metal along with road-snakes when you're practicing. I was actually surprised to find that my Vee stopped so well in the wet....that's why your post caught my eye. I'm a huge believer that everyone needs to practice panic braking anyway though.


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I'm confused. You're complaining because the front brakes do what they're supposed to do, which is stop the front wheel from turning? ;-)

If your front wheel is locking when you don't expect it to, I would suggest that you take a look at your technique. For example, begin applying the rear brake a half-second or so before squeezing the front, to begin weight transfer to the front gradually. Too much front brake before weight transfer has begun will definitely get your attention.

The brake lever is adjustable, so you might also try placing it closer to the grip for better feel.

I've found the Strom's brakes to be merely adequate. I would definitely not say that excessive grab is a problem; if anything, I think they're a bit on the weak side.
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agree with the above post

After getting off an R1 and onto a strom brakes were the first thing I noticed after the power loss....

So I have the GSXR750 callipers with braided lines, and I also have K60 tyres (less tyre on the road), I can tell you I have no issues braking wet or dry and my wrist is a little too happy, even in the wet. I rarely touch the rear brake, it's there more as tool for cornering, slow traffic commuting, rest stops or simply to compliment the front, I've always been a heavy front braker even on the dirt. I still haven't changed the rear pads and they're still fine at 53K (kms).

Practice your braking on the strom.
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I have ridden this summer in some real downpours never had an issue braking. The fact you say you are locking it up tells me you just need to practice braking and getting used to the strom.

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I'm guessing the reason they make an ABS model is because these bikes lock up the front so damn easy..


more likely cause there are so many hamfisted riders

What TIRES you have? Trailwings have a rep for not being great in the rain

It's not the bike

your r6 is a lighter bike with better brakes, your ninja is about 100lbs lighter then the Wee, why wouldn't they stop quicker



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