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post #1 of 10 Old 09-10-2009, 09:10 AM Thread Starter
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low engine oil

Hi there everyone

This may be a long shot, but I'm wondering if any of the Stormtrooper members have had problems before with their V Strom regarding low oil levels, what damage was caused and what parts needed replacing?

Reason: My bike ran low on oil when I was travelling @ +/- 140km/hr, bike stalled & after pulling over - the chain was tight. After loosening it & getting into neutral, I managed to start the bike, but it did'nt sound too good. From there, I didn't ride but had it towed to the nearest dealer.

No warning light came on nor overheating took place, & no odd sounds occurred before the point of stalling. Only, after re-starting the bike, it did'nt sound right.

They dealers have stripped the engine & according to them, most parts need to be replaced. These being:

Gasket set
Piston (x2)
Rebore cylinder (x2)
Pump Assy
Crankshaft Comp
Bearing, crankshaft (x4)
Conrod Assy (2)
Bearing crank pins (4)

+ spark plugs, washers, filter assy, clips, seals, pins, etc.

I'm aware that the bike ran low & should have checked the oil (although the oil checking screen on the rhs was difficult to see through - it was like that when I bought the bike 2nd hand & I always thought the cloudy appearance was the oil in the chamber?)

Any similar experiences that any of you may have had & whether I should replace ALL the above parts would be greatly appreciated. Unfortunately I was not present when they stripped the bike & don't know whether their quote is 100 % genuine? I have 2 pics which the dealers sent me - but can't assess the extent of damage by looking at the pics.

Thanks for reading & keep safe on the road.

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post #2 of 10 Old 09-10-2009, 09:17 AM
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Yikes! What's the dealer quoting you as a price for all of that?
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Craig, those all look like typical parts that would be replaced if an engine were run with low or no oil. It's actually a pretty short list.

Could you skip an item and get away with it? Maybe. But, would you really feel good riding down the highway at 60 mph wondering if that rod was going to come through the case and toss you on the pavement? Been there, done that, don't recommend it.

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sounds like this bike

was hosed by the previous owner to start with. What did you check when you first brought it home? Did you check fluids chain tension etc.?

It will be much cheaper to get a short block from a wreck probably even with shipping from the states.

The sight glass being cloudy was a really bad sign to start with.

I would be really interested to know the year, model, and mileage. the damage is typical for a bike with no oil in the case. used low mileage motors in the us are about $400 for a short(no FI components)

if you can scan or post the pics the dealer sent you I would be interested to see them.

If this bike was very badly abused before you got it the oil pressure sender might have been damaged already.

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The camshafts ride directly in the head casting. That means new heads. A salvaged engine is probably the way to go.

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thanks for feedback guys. Salvaged engine sounds like the best plan.
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How did running the bike low on oil make the chain run tight? Never done it, so maybe the answer's obvious. But I can't figure it out. The rest of the damage seems about right. Actually a little surprised your dealer didn't see any damage in the transmission. Just out of curiosity, what kind of oil was in it? And how low did it get? Hate to deepen your pain, but hoping to expand the knowledge base here a bit. I'm a little lax about checking oil level, but then, it never changes. If all this happened from being down a quart, I'll be a lot more careful.
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Like Grey pointed out...there's no topend parts in that list. The cam is bathed by high pressure oil and is usually the first failpoint in the event of a low oil pressure situation or even a low oil pressure event...

Honda started the OEM's on that path years ago and from a manufacturing standpoint, it's a lot easier to centerbore the head for the cams (hence, the rubber plugs on the ends) then to machine for bearings.....at the expense of head/cam life with dirty or low oil.

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How did running the bike low on oil make the chain run tight? Never done it, so maybe the answer's obvious. But I can't figure it out. The rest of the damage seems about right. Actually a little surprised your dealer didn't see any damage in the transmission. Just out of curiosity, what kind of oil was in it? And how low did it get? Hate to deepen your pain, but hoping to expand the knowledge base here a bit. I'm a little lax about checking oil level, but then, it never changes. If all this happened from being down a quart, I'll be a lot more careful.
had to already have been tight, and that was probably a bad sign. The bike was second hand and I guess not checked closely.
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