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post #1 of 17 Old 09-02-2009, 08:01 PM Thread Starter
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650 or 1000?

a buddy of mine just bought an 08 650 strom. i love it. went to the dealership to see what they had. 07, 8300k, small scratch on left apparently from branches while in the trails. 5100 bucks.

1st question....after fully surviced and new rubber is $5100 fair?
2nd question....i am 6'3 260....can it be set up properly to carry my fatness?

ridden mostly liter sport bikes in the past and have come to the conclusion they are unusable by mortals on the roads...especially here in maine. i want something i can wring the neck of without worrying about how long i will have my license because i am doing 130 in 4th....also have a thing for dirt roads and thought the baby strom would be the answer

i have the buyers order in hand, just looking for a bit of feedback to help make the plunge....

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post #2 of 17 Old 09-02-2009, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
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oh, and yeah i read the 650 vs 1000 thread......if someone was gonna point me in that direction.....
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post #3 of 17 Old 09-02-2009, 08:25 PM
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1. I'm not sure about used prices.
2. I'm 6'4" 300lbs, I bought my WEE about a month ago and with the addition of the Suzuki Tall Touring seat I am good for about 12hrs or 700 miles. With highway pegs I am expecting to increase that by a couple of hours but it will really take a custom seat for me to go all day. I wouldn't know myself but it appears that my 650 would quickly exceed any legal speed limits if a person wanted to do so.

Hope that helps.
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For your weight you will need to consider new front springs and a new spring for the rear shock. If you do the work yourself, it isn't all that expensive for the parts (couple hundred $$) but if you don't have the tools and need to hire it out I have no idea what the cost will be.

I put linear rate springs in my DL650 ($90 from Sonic Springs) and a few more dollars for new seals and oil. I swapped the rear spring for a heavier one as well (ordered from Wilbers USA for ~$140 or so. I'm not sure Wilbers has a US office anymore but other companies can supply the spring). The rear shock is best done with a hydraulic press that is used to remove the collar from the top. There are instructions out on the web somewhere if you search long enough. There is a very small set screw on the preload adjuster collar that can get frozen but must be removed to release the collar and expose the ring clip that lets you take the spring off the shock body. If that set screw gets fouled up, it is real fun to remove (ask me how I know). Then you have to drill a new hole and thread it for a new set screw (best done on a milling machine). So, many people simple swap out the whole assembly with an aftermarket shock already built for their weight. That will run you another ~$650 and up depending on how fancy of a shock you want.

If you have ridden many sportbikes, you will likely be disappointed with the 650s performance (watch me get crucified by the 650 advocates). However, I ride a CBR600F4i for twisties and a 2008 Hayabusa on the street, so I have some modest experience with fast bikes. I sold my 650 this year after 30,000 miles and now own a DL 1000 (already nearly 9000 miles this year). I have made no changes to the 1000 suspension for my weight and it is fine. I also enjoy the 30 or so more hp and torque.

That's my opinion anyway!
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Welcome to the board. Where in Maine are you? We have a few Maine Strommers out here and on ADV.

I fear you are about to get flamed for yet another 650 vs 1000 thread. . .

Both the 650 and the 1000 will work fine "here in Maine".

For the most part, the bikes are the same.

Which dealer did you go to?

Are there any options on the bike? Luggage, crashbars, etc?

The answer to your second question is yes, the 650 will pull yah along. . .

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Buy the Wee. That'll save some time and bandwidth.


"...i want something i can wring the neck of without worrying about how long i will have my license because i am doing 130 in 4th....also have a thing for dirt roads and thought the baby strom would be the answer..."
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For your weight you will need to consider new front springs and a new spring for the rear shock. If you do the work yourself, it isn't all that expensive for the parts (couple hundred $$) but if you don't have the tools and need to hire it out I have no idea what the cost will be.

I put linear rate springs in my DL650 ($90 from Sonic Springs) and a few more dollars for new seals and oil. I swapped the rear spring for a heavier one as well (ordered from Wilbers USA for ~$140 or so. I'm not sure Wilbers has a US office anymore but other companies can supply the spring). The rear shock is best done with a hydraulic press that is used to remove the collar from the top. There are instructions out on the web somewhere if you search long enough. There is a very small set screw on the preload adjuster collar that can get frozen but must be removed to release the collar and expose the ring clip that lets you take the spring off the shock body. If that set screw gets fouled up, it is real fun to remove (ask me how I know). Then you have to drill a new hole and thread it for a new set screw (best done on a milling machine). So, many people simple swap out the whole assembly with an aftermarket shock already built for their weight. That will run you another ~$650 and up depending on how fancy of a shock you want.

If you have ridden many sportbikes, you will likely be disappointed with the 650s performance (watch me get crucified by the 650 advocates). However, I ride a CBR600F4i for twisties and a 2008 Hayabusa on the street, so I have some modest experience with fast bikes. I sold my 650 this year after 30,000 miles and now own a DL 1000 (already nearly 9000 miles this year). I have made no changes to the 1000 suspension for my weight and it is fine. I also enjoy the 30 or so more hp and torque.

That's my opinion anyway!
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WILBERS HAS FANTASTIC REPRESENTATION Call, Ted porter, at teds beemer shop (just google), wilbers have the strom shock really nailed, and you will have it in 2-4weeks, or you can just get a spring. you need to get .90 kg/mm front springs from sonic for normal st type of riding or .95 if you are aggressive. use 5-10 wt fork oil unless you do the RT valves or imitator with the race tech youll be running20-30wt. Sasquatch also does a nice rebuild.
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Buy the Wee. That'll save some time and bandwidth.


"...i want something i can wring the neck of without worrying about how long i will have my license because i am doing 130 in 4th....also have a thing for dirt roads and thought the baby strom would be the answer..."
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post #9 of 17 Old 09-03-2009, 06:16 AM Thread Starter
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thanks for the input. i appreciate it. -nate
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post #10 of 17 Old 09-03-2009, 07:18 AM Thread Starter
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[QUOTE=MightyShep;458878]Buy the Wee. That'll save some time and bandwidth.

you know what bud? i had five people give me useful info and one person being a jackass. guess who the jackass is? bandwidth? give me a break man, if you want to save bandwidth than refrain from posting you sarcastic crap in peoples threads.

i had intended on asking a 650 v 1000 question then realized i should look around and found the 650 v 1000 sticky thread which answered a few questions. i then decided to ask a couple of bike specific questions and forgot to change the title of my thread. so sorry governor.

thanks for making me waste more of your precious bandwidth with this reply and more importantly some of my day.........

love-nate
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