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post #1 of 22 Old 08-21-2009, 12:22 AM Thread Starter
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OK guys, got a delima I can't see to figure out.

I've been riding for 35 years so by no means do I consider myself a newbie or a rookie. But when it comes to getting miles out of a tire (front or rear) I guess I am a rookie......

Throughout this forum, and others, I read where people state they get 10k, 11k, or more, out of a rear tire. And it doesnt seem to be brand specific - folks generally relate this to all makes.

What am I doing wrong? Throughout my experiences with now two different Wee's, as well as a couple of crotch rockets, a BMW, and even a pair of Harleys, I have never, I repeat, never, gotten more than 4k to 5k out of a rear tire..... period.

I am religious about maintaining proper air pressure, I do ride a little fast I guess (love the twisties) but not excessively. I live\ride mostly in South Texas where our summer temps generally stay in the 90's to 100's so yea, the road surfaces are hot. And those surfaces run the typical range - grooved concrete, old chunked asphalt, new blacktop, etc. And I rarely venture off-road with the Vee (got a dirt bike for that fix) and I don't overload my Wee - heck I dont even run with the panniers normally unless I'm on a trip. Lastly, I weigh 170 lbs and I never ride 2-up (the wife dosen't participate in my obsession), so what gives????

Do you 10k guys only ride in the rain, and\or on cold days?

Any thoughts, suggestions??

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I have an 8500 mile rear TW that simply won't die (I really want to replace it with a Conti Trail Attack). I ride pretty much every day, rain, sun, cold, hot (I live in Maine). I ride mostly street, but seek dirt for short stretches. I'm not light on the throttle, I have a 2002 DL1000 and like to use a little throttle from time to time. I guess I will get another 2K on that rear.

I can't tell you why it is lasting as long as it has, from the reports I'd heard, I expected it to be done by 5K. What do I know?

On other bikes, my '99 R1100RT especially, I don't think my rear Metzlers would make 5k.

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I have 8100 mi on my TWs. I'm guessing the rear will go another 2000 mi by the looks of it. I mainly commute to work in a region characterized by 85-95 deg. F weather conditions during summer. Average speed is 50 - 65 mph. Not real light on throttle; mainly straightaways so rear has begun to square off.

Don't know why you only get 5k off your tires. What's the primary road aggregate like in your area?

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I got 9500 miles out of the Trailwings and 5500 mile out of a set of Dunlop d607s. I now have 8000 miles on a set of Battlewings with about 2000 miles left on them.
My riding consists of South and North Carolina Mountains for pleasure and commute to work on country roads. I do very little slab riding. If the road is long and straight I take the truck.
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I have 8100 mi on my TWs. I'm guessing the rear will go another 2000 mi by the looks of it. I mainly commute to work in a region characterized by 85-95 deg. F weather conditions during summer. Average speed is 50 - 65 mph. Not real light on throttle; mainly straightaways so rear has begun to square off.

Don't know why you only get 5k off your tires. What's the primary road aggregate like in your area?
Ive come to think that most of the wear can be attributed to the very hot average road temps combined with rough road surfaces. We try and avoid the slabs whenever possible, so most of the roads we ride are in the Hillcountry which are rural County and Farm to Market roads. The aggregate varies, but is mostly rough and choppy asphalt, a lot of which has loose gravel due to age and condition.

I can usually go two rears to every one front. The rear starts to square off after about 2k to 3k. Most of my buddies experience the same problems, so it's gotta be a condition typical to the area in which we ride. That leads me back to the heat and crappy roads.

Im trying the Shinko 705's right now, which replaced the stock Trailwings I took off. The rear had 5500 miles at its replacement and although it wasn't quite toast yet, the center was worn flat with no tread. But like I said, I dont think it's the Trailwing becuase I've had similar issues on my other bikes which had various shoes ranging from Metzeler 880's, Pirelli's, and the standard Harley Dunlops....


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Tire pressure means something

I got 7.5k out of the stock TW's and had to replace both. The rear was totally gone and the front was badly cupped. When I replaced them with the Dunlop 607's I asked what gives from the tire folks. They questioned my tire pressure settings. They told me under inflated tires run alot hotter than properly inflated ones and suspected I was under inflating them. Long story short, we tested my cheapo gauge against the one they used and it was 5 lbs off. They also said I made it worse by using the inflation recommendations on the chain guard. So, I now inflate to 38/39 psi on the front and 40/41 on the rear and check it with a good gauge. Current mileage on the 607's is 12k front (still on the bike and looking great) and the rear lasted approximately 8k. I replaced the rear one with a Conti Trail Attack that currently has about 4k on it and it still looks great.

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OK guys, got a delima I can't see to figure out.

I've been riding for 35 years so by no means do I consider myself a newbie or a rookie. But when it comes to getting miles out of a tire (front or rear) I guess I am a rookie......

Throughout this forum, and others, I read where people state they get 10k, 11k, or more, out of a rear tire. And it doesnt seem to be brand specific - folks generally relate this to all makes.

What am I doing wrong? Throughout my experiences with now two different Wee's, as well as a couple of crotch rockets, a BMW, and even a pair of Harleys, I have never, I repeat, never, gotten more than 4k to 5k out of a rear tire..... period.

I am religious about maintaining proper air pressure, I do ride a little fast I guess (love the twisties) but not excessively. I live\ride mostly in South Texas where our summer temps generally stay in the 90's to 100's so yea, the road surfaces are hot. And those surfaces run the typical range - grooved concrete, old chunked asphalt, new blacktop, etc. And I rarely venture off-road with the Vee (got a dirt bike for that fix) and I don't overload my Wee - heck I dont even run with the panniers normally unless I'm on a trip. Lastly, I weigh 170 lbs and I never ride 2-up (the wife dosen't participate in my obsession), so what gives????

Do you 10k guys only ride in the rain, and\or on cold days?

Any thoughts, suggestions??
Since you rarely venture off road consider a Metzeler ME880 rear. I suspect your high speed runs on hot pavement require a tire with harder rubber.

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I've seem to notice that other than obvious abuse... a major factor seems to be how much high temp/long distances the tire sees. Continuous riding all at once and especially in very high temps seems to go hand in hand with people getting poor mileage.

Then how quickly you accelerate to road speed makes a big difference. Under had acceleration your rear tires is slipping some.. sanding down the tire sorta speak. High steady speeds on gravel will do the same.

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On my Wee the stock rear TW lasted my 10,875 miles; probably could have pushed it to 11k but I was going on a trip and changed it for safety. I am at 15k now and the replacement Battlewing looks almost new.

I am still on the stock front TW at 15k miles and plan on getting another 500-or 1000 miles out of it. The front tire did start to cup a little at about 14K letting my know it's remaining life is short.

Ideally I am trying to stagger replacements of fornt a back so I will replace the front and rear tires at the same point at about 32k miles.

I am a little lazy. I don't check tire pressure often and when I do fill the tires generally I overfill them 2 or 3 psi. I run at high speeds 80 mph+ on the highway for long periods 1-2 hr which doens't help tire life either. I don't know why tires last for me but they do.
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I think the aggregate the roads are made of really makes a difference for wear. A lot of the rural two lane roads around here are chip seal made from very angular 3/4 minus, kind of like riding on 40 grit sand paper if you will, the major roads and hwys are made with a much finer grind or concrete so the surface would like riding on 400 grit sandpaper.

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