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post #1 of 39 Old 08-19-2009, 11:27 AM Thread Starter
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Gearing-up Helmets

I just purchased a new 2009 V-Strom 650. I am now in the process of gearing-up for said bike. I live in a rural/suburban area and I will be using my bike on a recreational basis.

I started out looking at standard full-face helmets, but tried on a flip-up and really like the utility.

Can anyone offer thoughts and/or opinions on why or why not to get a flip-up helmet as opposed to a fixed full-face helmet.

I know folks have some strong opinions on brands, but right now I am looking at an HJC IS-Max or an HJC FS15. I liked the Arais but the really squish my mildly pudgy face. I know you shouldn't really put a dollar amount on your noggin', but those helmets are expensive.

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Flip-up benefits:

Well, flip-up... can talk to others without screeming and having to take the helmet off. Can flip up and get a quick drink easier. Can flip up at the gas station and kind of get more air around me. Can get a kiss from my daughter (as I am leaving) when fully suited up.

Flip-up drawbacks:

Usually helmets are heavier (as evident here) and somewhat noisier. I'd make sure that the helmet has a steel locking mechanism and not plastic. Typically ventilation in flip-ups sort of sucks (I usually leave the visor cracked just a little on my Nolan N102). I don't think there is a flip-up that is SNELL certified (if you care).

Having used both, I know my next helmet will be a flip-up again.

Now on what to get - get what fits the best and falls under the parameters of what your requirements are. If you buy online, make sure it is from the place that does exchanges for size!

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Another drawback is the flip up provides nowhere near the protection as a full face. It is nothing more than an open face with a really fancy, sturdy, face shield. That being said, it will provide more protection for at least one hit, than an open face. Even the metal latches are very thin and puny.

Pay attention to the latch release. Can you rotate your hear forward enough that the latch can be released by hitting your chest. Be sure it is not located on the bottom of the chin bar and is a push button rather than a lift up release.

I ride with a flip up (Modular) helmet. Since I bought it I see it has plastic latches and has the lift release on the bottom of the chin bar. Things I never really looked at in the store. Even though I like the convenience (I wear glasses and like the fact I can open it for cooling) my next helmet will be a full face, unless they come up with a better latching system.

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I agree with most of what's been posted. Modular(flip ups) are a bit heavier & noisier than a standard fullface. Foam earplugs solve the noise issue. My current helmet is a Shoei Multitec which is the best fitting helmet I have ever worn in about 50 yrs. of riding. It ain't cheap, but you can get replacement pads to customize the fit(mine was perfect as it came from supplier). Also, the Shoei has a metal latching system. If they still make them if I need another helmet, I'm getting another one. One more thing.......the Multitec is one of, if not the quietest modular helmet offered.

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Thanks for the feedback guys.

I just got back from the local dealer, and I did notice that the HJC flip-ups were really open face helmets, with a bottom part that looked as though it would provide very little in the way of protection. The latches on the HJCs were metal but the face guard seemed very flimsy.

I am really leaning toward an HJC FS-15 now. The question becomes, do I get Silver, Anthracite, or Black?

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Before you buy, learn about helmet fitting. The Arai website has a good tutorial. The helmet has to be sized and the right shape to fit your cranium. Then adjust the cheek pads as necessary. If replaceable cheek pads aren't available, look into better helmets.

My Shoei TZ-R is a great fit for me - and the padding breaks in over time. My next helmet will be white because I ride in traffic. Hopefully I can find one that has better ventilation, can't be that hard to do better...

As a glasses wearer, I love the flip-up concept, but have yet to find one that overcomes enough of the drawbacks. Still hoping though.

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I like my HJC CL-Max flip up. When I am backing the bike I flip it open and I gain tremendous visibility over my shoulders that I don't get when it is closed. I also like it because I can put it on and take it off without removing my eyeglasses. I never ride with the front flipped up but I do ride with the shield open. I am very happ with my HJC.
My wife dropped her safety council learner bike in town this spring and landed on her faceshield. The faceshield was totalled, not broken but scatched to crap, the chin bar had a small scratch and the helment face guard stayed locked. It was a KBC modular. I would say it did it's job rather well.
We are both pleased with the benefits our modular helmets provide over the full face ones we used to wear.

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Since you asked, I have been using a cheapo ~$100 Zeus modular helmet for years. Modulars are heavier and noisier than ff, but that doesn't outweigh the convenience, especially if you wear glasses. I will replace this one soon with another higher-end modular, either Nolan or HJC. Of course, I plan on getting several helmets for different situations - 3/4 for commuting, modular for touring, ff for track days.

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I wear a white ARAI XD3. It is certainly not a cheap helmet but it is the best helmet I've ever worn for being cool and comfortable. I wear glasses and there is plenty of room at the temples to slide your glasses on. With all the vents open I can feel my hair blow in the wind. One of my riding buddies calls me "Ping-pong Ball Head" because the white helmet is so visible. He says it is super easy to see me in his mirrors when we are riding. My only complaint is that it requires a fair bit of fiddling to change the shield. Other than that, I am completely pleased with it.


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