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post #1 of 24 Old 08-18-2009, 05:45 PM Thread Starter
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Fog Lamp irritation: Is it just me??

Here in S E Washington there is an irritating fad, and I suspect it is widespread--as the sun starts to go down, everyone (seemingly) that owns a vehicle with fog lamps turns em on, even though it is light, dry, and with no fog anywhere on the horizon. As night falls and it gets darker it becomes more and more irritating to have a wall of light coming from so many drivers. It seems to be a fad very popular with the ethnic SUV drivers, most outfitted with gigantic chrome rims that continue to 'spin' at stops. It serves no purpose other than to blind the oncoming traffic.

Can anyone tell me why people do this? I estimate it is 10-20% of all local traffic that does this. If you flash your brights they are oblivious to your meaning. They never dim their lights or even appear to know what a flash of the brights means.

The only defense seems to be to avert your eyes until the offender has passed--which works okay, but your eyes must frequently be averted, and it is only a band-aid on this problem.

Am I too critical?
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It's worldwide. I suspect a lot of the lights come on automatically and the owners don't even know that they have them on.
Over here it's actually illegal to have fog lights on at all unless there is fog present but of course it's never enforced it's far easier to fine somebody for being 3 kph (1.8 mph) over the speed limit than it is to charge a person who may be distracting hundreds or even thousands of other road users.
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It's even worse here in Michigan. I think 30 - 40% of cars use them here when they are not needed. Add some drizzle, sleet, ice or snow and the reflection on the road makes it even worse. I often put on my brights so they will be blinded as well.

I guess people think they look cool by showing off their extra lights. Many drivers are too stupid to understand..
 
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It seems to be the norm in my part of Ontario as well.. it drives me crazy as half the fog lights are adjusted incorrectly and are blasting in my eyes.

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I don't run mine when there is oncoming traffic, but I find my fog lamps/driving lamps on my pickup work a hell of a lot better at lighting up deer hanging out on the sides of the road than my high beams do..
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I don't run mine when there is oncoming traffic, but I find my fog lamps/driving lamps on my pickup work a hell of a lot better at lighting up deer hanging out on the sides of the road than my high beams do..
That suggests that either your fog lights are not fog lights but rather driving lights or are fog lights that are horribly adjusted.

In theory, fog lights should illuminate just a few inches above the road. hey should not be illuminating out in the trees or way up the road. That way the light from the fog above it doesn't scatter back at you and you can see better.

As a side note: if you have a newer car with Bi-Xenon headlights there really isn't much point in the fogs as the Bi-Xenon cutoff is so sharp that it works much like a fog light while on low beam.

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That suggests that either your fog lights are not fog lights but rather driving lights or are fog lights that are horribly adjusted.

In theory, fog lights should illuminate just a few inches above the road. hey should not be illuminating out in the trees or way up the road. That way the light from the fog above it doesn't scatter back at you and you can see better.

As a side note: if you have a newer car with Bi-Xenon headlights there really isn't much point in the fogs as the Bi-Xenon cutoff is so sharp that it works much like a fog light while on low beam.

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Well, they are probably much more like driving lights, as they are rather round and project a pretty planar field of light out right and left. They annoy me in the fog more than help anyway.

Regardless, I always try to turn them off when I see an approaching car.

I've been flashed at night on the bike, with the low beams on. I think the 'strom just has really good lights for a bike.
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I've been flashed at night on the bike, with the low beams on. I think the 'strom just has really good lights for a bike.
It seems to me that many people don't have the headlights adjusted properly on the Stroms.

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Young doods seem to think it's cool and older luzury car owners don't seem to realize that they are on. Even worse, some of those cars have European inclement weather packages that include a bright red rear fog that is dazzling to following cars on a clear night.

I was overjoyed to learn that Boston police recently ticketed a dood for use of fogs in daylight.

Taking a page from the Germans, perhaps I'll found Nebelscheinwerferbenutzerverein Boston, and create the bumper sticker, "Foglights are for fog."

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A lot of new vehicles are available with factory foglights.

They bother me too, I flash my brights for those folks and look to the shoulder to try to maintain some degree of night vision.

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