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post #1 of 20 Old 08-03-2009, 02:45 AM Thread Starter
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Salutations --

I've given up on my Xena alarm. The company is great, and definitely stands behind these devices; they have been good about sending me replacement modules. Unfortunately, it's not useful to me if it's not reliable, and while the Xena locks are great, the alarm modules are the most unreliable pieces of crap I've ever dealt with. I've had three go the same way in the past year: they become utterly insensitive to movement, but will alarm randomly while sitting still; possibly a fun prank, but not very useful.

I'm looking at other alarm systems, and the two that seem popular are the Scorpio and Gorilla. One thing the Xena had going for it was that it ran on its own power, so there's no chance of it draining the bike's battery, either while on standby or while sounding repeated alarms, erroneously or otherwise. It doesn't look like either the Scorpio or Gorilla are designed to run that way, though some models do appear to have battery backup.

Can anyone suggest a solution that meets this requirement? Alternatively, I could figure out how to build a little voltage threshold circuit that cuts power to the alarm when battery voltage drops too low.

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post #2 of 20 Old 08-03-2009, 08:32 AM
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That brings up an interesting point. With as many people as there are posting V-Strom related information here, at VSRI and at ADVrider from all over the world, I don't remember anyone reporting a bike theft.

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post #3 of 20 Old 08-03-2009, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by greywolf View Post
That brings up an interesting point. With as many people as there are posting V-Strom related information here, at VSRI and at ADVrider from all over the world, I don't remember anyone reporting a bike theft.

LOL, does that tell us all something? Maybe we have bikes that only an owner could love?

You are right though, I've never heard of someone going to the trouble to steal a strom...either variety!


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post #4 of 20 Old 08-03-2009, 09:14 AM
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Scorpio is a good one. I have one on my VFR and it does a good job. The shock sensitivity isn't that great but it could be in where I've got it mounted to. I have the battery backup as well as the proximity sensor. There were times last winter when I didn't ride that bike for a couple of weeks and I didn't have any problems with it pulling the battery down.

I have a Viper on my V-Strom and do not recommend that one as highly. It works pretty well but I had a lot of problems initially because of a bad unit. I eventually got them sorted out though. Quiescent current draw is a lot higher than the Scorpio but still not too bad. It will pull the battery down a noticeable amount in a week or so.

I'm less worried about someone stealing my bike than I am about the things on it. The Viper has a closed loop trigger, much like the closed loops used on electronics in stores. Unplug the loop and the alarm goes off. I have a wire I run through the buckles on my tail bag so if someone breaks the loop the alarm goes off. The proximity sensor on the Scorpio is adjustable and I have it set so that it starts chirping when someone is within a few feet of the bike. If they get any closer it goes off.

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post #5 of 20 Old 08-03-2009, 11:24 AM
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I'm less worried about someone stealing my bike than I am about the things on it.
My dealer tried to sell me LoJack. I passed, thinking if the bike gets stolen, I get a new one. Then I started farkling and my insurance doesn't have any extra coverage available. Now I'm rethinking the alarm situation.

According to LoJack "Motorcycle theft is a big problem - nearly 61,000 bikes were stolen in 2008 - that's more than $404 million in losses. Since 2006, there have been more than 186,000 motorcycle thefts."

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I've had good luck with the Talon T-3300 on my K9Wee...solid product so far...good service from Brad VanSickle...proximity turned down to lowest setting-allows approach but no touch and has not drained battery. Small LED warn light installed in front deck is a bit washed out in sunlight but audible alarm is clearly sufficient to warn off.

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Originally Posted by greywolf View Post
That brings up an interesting point. With as many people as there are posting V-Strom related information here, at VSRI and at ADVrider from all over the world, I don't remember anyone reporting a bike theft.
Yeah ... that's why I like ugly bikes.

It's not a common theft target, nor is my area unusually high risk. The reason I want an alarm is because I don't always have much choice about where I stay on road trips, and a theft while I'm on the road would be way beyond inconvenient. On the risk assessment quadrangle, that's a low-likelihood, high-cost risk; and since it doesn't cost much to mitigate significantly, it's worth the expenditure.

Thanks to all for the feedback. I decided to try the Scorpio 500i (which appears to be a naked SR-i300). I ordered the perimeter sensor, but not the ignition disabler. I will continue to use the Xena lock as an immobilizer, and since it will no longer warn me that I forgot it, I've put yellow tape on it.

As a bonus, the perimeter sensor will make a fabulous bear-warning device when I'm camping in the forest.
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post #8 of 20 Old 08-07-2009, 01:09 AM
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I have the scorpio and love gets everyones attention when it goes off. The motion detector setting is great when your at a hotel or if you park it with your expensive bags on it to shop or eat somewhere...also has a remote that lights up and vibrates when someone is messing with it. So its not just for getting the whole bike stolen its also for whats on the bike...

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post #9 of 20 Old 08-07-2009, 02:24 AM
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I use a Scorpio 600i alarm with ignition disable, perimeter sensor and backup battery. Overall a good alarm. Excellent range on the remote. The alarm does not appear to be a big drain on the battery. A few things could be improved. The perimeter sensor appears to have two settings, not sensitive enough and too sensitive. The remote battery life is abysmal.

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post #10 of 20 Old 08-07-2009, 10:28 PM
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I guess you've already found your alarm, but there is one that hasn't been mentioned. The Cyclone 866F is a pretty solid long as it doesn't get wet.

1. Tilt sensor (omnidirectional)
2. Shock sensor (dual stage)
3. Starter-immobilizer
4. AMAZING backup battery (as in 2 hour full stage siren kind of amazing)
5. Closed loop trigger
6. Optional pager system
7. Fully digital sensors (won't wear over time due to vibration)

I had this sucker all wired up to my wife's bike and ready to get it in mine as well. Unfortunately, it rained like mad for a few days and all of the water that made it under the seat pooled on the alarm (and nowhere else, I might add). That messed with the tilt sensor at first and kept setting it off, so I eventually disabled that one and ran without it. Then it got at the starter-immobilizer, and I couldn't even start the bike (since it thought it was being stolen), and eventually the siren itself. Ripped the thing out the next day.

Horror story aside, it worked VERY well all the way until it got wet, and on the Strom I don't think I'd have that problem. The shock sensor in particular was great. I would flick the exhaust pipe (Ninja 500) and get warning chirps. Any more than that and you had better cover your ears. 120 dB less than a foot away HURTS!

Super small (less than the size of 2 packs of cigarettes), easy installation (if you know your bike's wiring).

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