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post #1 of 15 Old 08-01-2009, 01:22 AM Thread Starter
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Question Out of State Purchasing

Has anyone purchased their V-strom out of state? ... I have been looking for awhile and it seems folks on the east coast or central US get better OTD pricing than us up here in the PNW ... My purchase has been placed on hold as I am unemployed again and have other things to worry about than a new motorcycle but I'm thinking sheesh if I can get a WEE w/ABS for $1000k less OTD why shouldn't I just fly and ride it back home in WA...

Anyone have any experience with such?
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I bought my bike new in Ohio in February 2007. I put a trailer hitch on the car for $100 and rented a U-Haul trailer for $20. The trip from Chicago and back took one day. $6719.50 was the total I paid to Honda of Toledo plus $80 for the title and 30 day Ohio temporary tags. The MSRP was $7199. I couldn't even find an ABS 650 locally much less for under MSRP. A couple of hours at the local DMV to pay $473 in sales tax and $103 for title transfer and permanent Illinois tags completed the deal. The price was quoted by e-mail, no haggling or unpleasantness was involved and the entire process was painless.

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Don't forget to (possibly) add WA sales tax to your final bill. If you're "exporting" the bike out of the state of purchase, you may not need to pay that state's sales tax, but you'll end up having to pay WA sales tax when you title/license it here. Also, not sure what titling issues may arise, since the out-of-state dealers may not know all the ins/outs of titling out of their own (or bordering) states?

Basically, ask a lot of questions of the selling dealer to make sure that the great deal you're getting is truly as good as it seems.

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If you're "exporting" the bike out of the state of purchase, you may not need to pay that state's sales tax, but you'll end up having to pay WA sales tax when you title/license it here.
I sold a bike (from PA) to a guy in WV. At the notary public, he handed me cash, the notary charged $30 for doing the paperwork. He didn't pay sales tax, registration, etc. - just the purchase price. I signed the title over to him.

When he got back to WV, he had to register the bike - to do so he had to pay sales tax there and whatever their registration/ plates/ other bureaucratic nonsense charges there are for his home state.

The notary said that some notaries can do the whole transaction, especially if you live in a border town: notaries on both sides of the border can do the paperwork for both states.

Bottom line: you shouldn't get "double dipped" on sales tax, registration, plates, etc.
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Buying an out of state bike in California has a few quirks.
We cannot buy and bring in a new bike (CA smog crap) from another state.
We can bring in a used bike...as long as there are at least 7,500 miles on the odometer.
Maybe that's the reason are prices are usually higher than the other states.
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We cannot buy and bring in a new bike (CA smog crap) from another state.
It depends on the bike. I bought mine in Ohio but it has a California emissions certification on the frame sticker. A bike with such certification does not need to have 7500 miles on it.

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Buying an out of state bike in California has a few quirks.
We cannot buy and bring in a new bike (CA smog crap) from another state.
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not true, several other states are now requiring that vehicles meet the E-33 California spec

I'm pretty sure all DL1000s sold in the US now are E-33 and have been for a couple years, not sure about the DL650

fwiw, my Vee is an E-33 model, purchased in NH



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As far as I could tell, there was no cost advantage or disadvantage to buying a NEW bike out of state, except of course for the travelling distance.

Last year I bought by new 650 off the lot from a dealer in North Carolina. I did this because all the local dealers in Northern VA said it would be about a 3 mos. wait before they got any new ones in stock.


The NC dealer did not charge me sales tax and gave me a 30 day temp tag/registration. I had to pay a VA sales tax at the VA dmv when I registered the bike in VA.

I was able to get an almost-free ride down to NC to pickup the bike. The 250 mile ride home from NC was fun. I was in love with the bike by the time I got home.

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I bought two bikes out of state and brought them to PA. One was brought back in the back of my truck, and the other I rode back, carrying the bill of sale (private sale), NY title signed by previous owner, and proof of insurance. The bike had no license plate, I was never stopped in the three hour ride from NY. (Some owners might let you keep their license plate on the bike so you don't get stopped, with the stipulation that you mail it back to them when you get it home). I believe some states have some special permit they give for such circumstances, but not sure.
In PA, I had to submit paperwork to get both re-titled in PA, and had to pay state sales tax at the same time, all through a notary, and all for a fee of course. Both owners offered to write me two bills of sale- one with the real price, one with a lower price to save me on taxes. (6% here in PA)

As far as finding and buying a bike out of state, I found this out when I bought mine (kind of a long story). Last November I saw a new yellow 08 DL650 in a dealership, and remembered seeing it there in the spring also. I looked around, and casually asked the only guy in the shop how much it cost. He said $6100. I thought that was pretty good, but just said ok, and walked around some more, then left. Came back the next week, and looked at bikes, asked a different guy about it again, and he told me $6700, and asked if there were any paperwork fees attached to bike sales, or "set up" fees, and there weren't. Turns out it was the owner I had talked to the first time, as the two salesmen were out to lunch, I talked to the owner again then and the $6100 price was still good. So, I had an idea......I thought I might want an ABS 08 leftover, (this shop had only the yellow 08) and had seen many advertised by dealers online at both PA and out of state dealers, (on cycletrader.com), with the "call for price" instead of a price on the end. I went online, found some of these dealers, emailed them, and told them exactly my story, -
That I had found a local price of $6100 for a non ABS leftover, can they get close to that with an ABS.
Well many responded that they had none (although they had a current advertisement on cycletrader.com) and then one responded three weeks later, (*as the salesman had been away), and gave me a price of $6350 out the door, which was not bad. But, I had bought the yellow 08 by then. That shop was in Ohio.
Anyway, short story- try those online (and local) dealers in the fall which advertise "call for price" and see what they will do with leftovers. Then don't forget to figure in your travel expenses and trip home with an out of state bike.
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It depends on the bike. I bought mine in Ohio but it has a California emissions certification on the frame sticker. A bike with such certification does not need to have 7500 miles on it.
The CA emission sticker might be ok but...the DMV maintains a list of VIN numbers (range from manufacterer) in order to be registered in California. If the bikes VIN is not on the list...it cannot be registered in California.

A California member of Burgmanusa.com purchased a new Burgman 650 Exective back east and had it shipped to CA (it was a 50 state bike)
However the DMV would not register it due to the fact the VIN was not listed to be sold in California. He ended up selling the brand new bike to someone in Nevada.

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