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post #1 of 165 Old 11-15-2019, 05:07 PM Thread Starter
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Caution – be advised – old / controversial topic

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1) Do I think my microscopic post in a Universe of motorcycle threads will change anything? No.

2) Based on what I see EVERYWHERE – do I think my opinion will matter? No.

3) Is there merit to my position on this? Please see # 2.

Now that I have the disclaimers listed, please tell me why 95% of the riders “I see,” solo and with a passenger, do not wear “ANY” ATGATT?? All day – rain or shine – dark of night – black is the preferred jacket / helmet color. Down the Interstate – 60 mph – pitch dark – raining hard – I’m driving behind a 2” square of fading red light. The rider is invisible. I see the light because I am paying attention. Lord help him with the driver who doesn’t. And who will be held responsible? And will that be priority 1 to the rider who’s unconscious in the ditch?

Personally, I prefer not to ride with anyone who skips ATGATT. Yeah, ATGATT doesn’t make us invincible to risks. But – proven – it does improve our safety odds. IMHO - that should matter?

OK – this is starting to sound like the dreaded lecture. Let’s move on. Any answers? Other than the standard answer of “Ego,” I honestly don’t know.

I ask because I’d like to understand this better than I do. No more - no less. Arguments will be respectfully declined. Thanks.

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post #2 of 165 Old 11-15-2019, 05:34 PM
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I dunno, why do kids run with scissors?
Seriously, there are as many answers as there are squids on Street Triples.
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Kids I understand. Adults? Not so much.

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Saw a post on facebook yesterday. Guy in a hospital bed with road rash over half his face. Says : I learned that I should wear a helmet, please help with medical bills, gofundme, etc., etc. Um...nope. You were an adult when you made the decision to ride unprotected. Pay your own bills.

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Kids I understand. Adults? Not so much.
Some folks are naturally fearful, others, not so much. I wear a helmet now, didn't used to back in my touring bike days. It's for protection, from BUGS! lol 50 years riding, never down on the street. If you're that scared, stay on the porch. Sorry, you deserved it!!
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Perhaps it's your location? Here in the PNW it's mostly HD riders not wearing gear when in the summer months, but occasionally I'll see other types of riders not wearing gear. I'm in complete shock when I go to other states with no helmet law, but I remind myself that I don't have to live in their body. I'm still flabbergasted, but I again remind myself that, "I don't have to live in their body."

Interestingly, I've always been an ATGATT rider myself, and it's saved my skin on mulitple occasions as I usually ride sportbikes or dirtbikes, but a few years ago I ended up with a Vino 125 for about a year and found I didn't wear all my gear as much when going to the 'market' or 5 miles away on ~35 mph streets. I find it interesting because I now have a 125SM in it's place and am ATGATT when I ride it, despite it being the same cc's. I think it's in part because it's much faster, but more so, the convenience of almost being 'chairlike' in the riding position and lower to the ground on the scooter as opposed to the 'horselike' riding position of my motorcycles.

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Serious answer - psychologists have a number of reasons for this (no, I'm not one).

Not so serious answer - if you explain why the king believed in his new clothes and paraded around bare, I'll answer your question.
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Everything in life has risk. Every person decides how much risk they feel like taking on. Personally a wear a full face helmet 100% of the time, however sometimes I wear a tank top, shorts and tennis shoes with it. On the highway I wear steel toed boots, jeans and a jacket with an upgraded back protector. None of my gear is dayglow yellow/orange/pink. Anyone truly concerned with living forever would never put their butt on a motorcycle.
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Some folks are naturally fearful, others, not so much. I wear a helmet now, didn't used to back in my touring bike days. It's for protection, from BUGS! lol 50 years riding, never down on the street. If you're that scared, stay on the porch. Sorry, you deserved it!!
No kidding. That is the main reason I won't wear a helmet that doesn't have full face protection. You ever taken a June bug into the face shield at 80MPH? That has gotta hurt if you get it in the face - and is a lot more likely than an accident.

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No kidding. That is the main reason I won't wear a helmet that doesn't have full face protection. You ever taken a June bug into the face shield at 80MPH? That has gotta hurt if you get it in the face - and is a lot more likely than an accident.
Yep, big bugs, bees, and lack of my 3 Kawasaki Voyager's huge screens cured me!!

BTW, I do recommend a full face helmet now, but what others do legally, is simpy none of my business.
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