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post #51 of 57 Old 11-06-2019, 09:18 PM
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I will raise this one further. I have a set of Denali D4s and I have them powered by a Neutrino Black Box which is a computer controlled version of a fuse box. It can do anything like act like a fuse, dim the lights manually or even automatically (for instance at whatever time sunset is at your location). They can also and this is where this arrangement is better than the Clearwater flicker apparatus) modulate your headlights for the conspicuosity everyone is looking for in this thread.

I have mine for instance set up so my D4s are at 100 percent on high beam, at 30% and flickering at 4 cycles per second on low beam between half an hour after sunrise and half an hour before sunset and at 40 % on low beam at night. All this happens automatically an is controlled by an app on my iPhone. And because I now have a six function fuse box where blown fuses are rectified by a flick of my iPhone 6 I also have my heated gear set up to turn on automatically at about 55 degrees and to gradually increase in warmth down to 30 degrees and my battery tender all attached with only two wires to my battery.

Cleaner wiring, headlight modulation, automatically increased heating from my electric vest and a quick detach connection for my battery tender. Tres cool!
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Holy crap. It is indeed a high tech world we live in. 2 questions, how does it know all that, and does it always work? Best, DD
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I think one factor that dramatically affects price is whether or not they are DOT certified for on road use. I have never found a cheap aux light that was "legal" (i.e. DOT certified) for on road use. Aside from the cost of certification, the DOT certification includes a requirement for control of the cast light pattern to prevent blinding on-coming traffic. I suspect the cheap ones generally don't invest enough money in their design to properly control the light pattern...

The bike size Clearwater and Denali lights aren't DOT approved either.

Lights that are approved have DOT molded into the lens.

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It has a microprocessor built in as well as a temperature sensor but it gets the time of sunset and sunrise from your phone.

It has some minor issues, but yes, it mostly works as advertised.
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It has a microprocessor built in as well as a temperature sensor but it gets the time of sunset and sunrise from your phone.

It has some minor issues, but yes, it mostly works as advertised.
Wow! I am SUCH a Luddite! The world - well, WebBikeWorld - knew about this thing 4 years ago.

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I think one factor that dramatically affects price is whether or not they are DOT certified for on road use. I have never found a cheap aux light that was "legal" (i.e. DOT certified) for on road use. Aside from the cost of certification, the DOT certification includes a requirement for control of the cast light pattern to prevent blinding on-coming traffic. I suspect the cheap ones generally don't invest enough money in their design to properly control the light pattern.

As an experiment, I setup a pair of the cheap amazon aux lights by aiming them to maximize their complement to my headlight out on the road. Then I parked the motorcycle pointed at the garage door to see the light pattern. Between 1/3 and 1/2 of the light cast from the aux lights was above the cut-off line of the headlight. In order to prevent the "too much light" situation posted by V-Tom, I re-aimed them against the garage door so that only a little bit of the pattern was above the headlight cut off. Back on the road, the aux light is much too short to improve what I can see very much. Which is OK with me because I put them on as DRL's to achieve that triangle image for others to see/notice.

Also, those Amazon cheap-os fell apart in the middle of a big touring trip less than a year after installation. The lights still worked but that crappy dove-tail mounting scheme just wore out and wouldn't hold (even after working it over). I had to unplug and remove the broken one (the other was loose, but hadn't failed yet). As soon as I got home, I replaced them with the ones offered by RichlandRick which mount directly with a bolt. They have not come loose or failed with twice as much time on the clock so far.

I could buy a couple of the Amazon units for the same price, but I'd rather not have to replace them every year or deal with them crapping out on the road... And sometimes it is not just remounting new ones, the waterproof wiring connectors I use also have to be transplanted or replaced.
I had 2 of those cheapo Amazon lights fail in the same way. The non-broken one was also loose. Gave up on them and went for a pair of Advmonster lights. Decent quality. They sell a heavy duty mounting bracket which I recommend as the supplied brackets broke on me.

Word of warning. Do not use the fender mounting bolts to mount your lights. These bolts are shoulder bolts that are designed to allow the fender to float. If you replace the bolts with non shoulder bolts you run the chance of cracking your fender at the mounting bolts. This happened to me. Had to buy a new fender.

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I had 2 of those cheapo Amazon lights fail in the same way. The non-broken one was also loose. Gave up on them and went for a pair of Advmonster lights. Decent quality. They sell a heavy duty mounting bracket which I recommend as the supplied brackets broke on me.

Word of warning. Do not use the fender mounting bolts to mount your lights. These bolts are shoulder bolts that are designed to allow the fender to float. If you replace the bolts with non shoulder bolts you run the chance of cracking your fender at the mounting bolts. This happened to me. Had to buy a new fender.
First of all, everyone disregard my mention of H3 LED bulbs earlier. Not gonna happen. I thought when the time comes I might try these https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00...K6Y9EEQB&psc=1 mounted on 6 inch 90 degree corner brackets from Home Depot wrapped in black heatshrink (just like I did on my Trophy). These brackets can easily be mounted with the bolts for the caliper adapters from Adventuretech for the good calipers the previous owner put on. Then I would probably go with these to reduce system wattage https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07...ZPJZR9GU&psc=1 - or the Beamtechs at double the price. For further wattage savings I would use a couple of these or similar https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01...5XKHAXEV&psc=1 . That should give me enough capacity for my heated glove and sock liners, high beams and driving lights while listening to music from my Garmin GPS and recording the ride with the GoPro. Just.

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