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post #1 of 32 Old 09-17-2019, 10:52 PM Thread Starter
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290lbs to big for vstrom 650? new rider

6 '3 290lbs to big for vstrom 650? new rider here looking at bikes i could start out on ....only had 1 150cc honda crf dirt bike when i was a teen ...vstrom 1000 seems like it be to much for a noob like me .
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6 '3 290lbs to big for vstrom 650? new rider here looking at bikes i could start out on ....only had 1 150cc honda crf dirt bike when i was a teen ...vstrom 1000 seems like it be to much for a noob like me .
I would not get scared off by an extra 350cc. The 1000 is not a sport bike, pretty low hp for an engine that size. It isnt going to be doing wheelies if you get carried away on the throttle.

However, people ride 2 up on 650s so one big guy isnt any worse.

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My 2013 DL 650 has a max gross vehicle weight of 915# (415 kg), and the bike weighs 472# (214 kg) giving you a load carrying capacity of 415# (214 kg). I'll let you convert all those numbers to stones. I find it interesting that Suzi did not see fit to say whether the bike's weight was dry or wet, so after you gear up, you probably weigh 305# or so, leaving just 138# for all accessories and a very light passenger. Better make sure your preload is adjusted properly....
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I bought a 2014 DL1000 and the power is very manageable. Im 275lbs and carry some gear and for me its perfect but Im used to having power.CR500 and a KTM 550.The 1000 I felt wouldnt work so hard but to be perfectly honest Ive never ridden the 650 for comparison.

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If I may say so the 1000 is not too big and the 650 is not too small. I would suggest you buy a used one of either size and see how it works for you. with a used bike you don't have so much invested that it would be real hard to make a move to a different sized bike. I have had bigger bikes and I have had smaller bikes and I loved them all.
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You'll be fine on a 650, and there's a significant weight difference with the 1000, plus most of the added weight is up high. I'd strongly recommend the 650 over the 1000 for a new-ish rider.

That said, you WILL need suspension upgrades to better match your displacement. For decades, Suzuki has sent their bikes overseas equipped with limp, lame springs barely adequate to hold the bike up, let alone cope with a large-ish Westerner. I think Suzuki offers employment as test riders to former jockeys and ballerinas or something.


Up front, I'd recommend a set of Sonic Springs in the appropriate spring rate and fresh 10W fork oil. That rate will probably be 1.1 kg/mm for you, but ask or use the calculator.
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Out back, you'll need to replace the spring at minimum. One of the most cost-effective options is to send your shock to be revalved and resprung at Adventure Power Sports:
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And of course, if you can locate a used bike with some compatible suspension upgrades already in place, that could save a LOT of cash and time. Quite a few, if not most, used V-Stroms on the market have suspension upgrades.

It's only a little awkward to ask a seller approximately how much they weigh...

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I would not get scared off by an extra 350cc. The 1000 is not a sport bike, pretty low hp for an engine that size. It isnt going to be doing wheelies if you get carried away on the throttle.

However, people ride 2 up on 650s so one big guy isnt any worse.
I disagree with this, my 1000 will easily wheelie. It does have traction control though so you can leave it in setting 2 and it will not then.

I am a big guy as well, the 650 is fine if you are only riding by yourself. 2UP the 1000 is much better. Insurnace is much cheaper on the 650 as is regular gas and higher MPG. It all adds up to the 1000 being a much more expensive option.

Suspension is much better on the 1000 but both will need to be resprung IMO. I did a Touratech Explorer rear shock and 1.1KG springs in the forks.

1000 also has much better brakes, and they may be a bit much for a new rider until you get used to them. It can stop you VERY quickly.

I am referring to a 2014+ 1000, I did not ride the older ones but have road every generation of 650.

I'd look for a good deal on a 650, you wont be disapointed with it as a first bike. To be honest though I'd look more at something like a Ninja 500. Ride it for a month or two and sell it for what you paid
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All bikes have a GVW rating that the design is based on. It's the bike weight plus approximately 400 to 450 lbs of extra weight consisting of rider, pillion, and luggage, or combination of. I would do the 1000 because it's easy to outgrow a smaller bike. Both will be good, like my 1000 as it is some 350 lbs lighter than my 1500 Goldwing that I use for two up touring.

Bought my first bike in 1972, a 1972 Suzuki 250 Hustler that I chose because of the size. My father co-signed for the loan and went with me to the dealer to do the purchase. He walked around and after some reflection mentioned that the bike I really should have was the 750 water buffalo. I said no because of the size, weight and in 1972 a 750 was a monster. 3 months later I was kicking myself because I had outgrown the 250 - Father was right. Lesson learned.

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I disagree with this, my 1000 will easily wheelie. It does have traction control though so you can leave it in setting 2 and it will not then.

I am a big guy as well, the 650 is fine if you are only riding by yourself. 2UP the 1000 is much better. Insurnace is much cheaper on the 650 as is regular gas and higher MPG. It all adds up to the 1000 being a much more expensive option.

Suspension is much better on the 1000 but both will need to be resprung IMO. I did a Touratech Explorer rear shock and 1.1KG springs in the forks.

1000 also has much better brakes, and they may be a bit much for a new rider until you get used to them. It can stop you VERY quickly.

I am referring to a 2014+ 1000, I did not ride the older ones but have road every generation of 650.

I'd look for a good deal on a 650, you wont be disapointed with it as a first bike. To be honest though I'd look more at something like a Ninja 500. Ride it for a month or two and sell it for what you paid
Out of curiosity, what in the world are you doing to get it to wheelie - dropping the clutch?
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6 '3 290lbs to big for vstrom 650? new rider here looking at bikes i could start out on ....only had 1 150cc honda crf dirt bike when i was a teen ...vstrom 1000 seems like it be to much for a noob like me .

A 650 Strom is not a good starter bike. It's way quicker than most cars on the road for one thing. Too much power for someone just getting into bikes IMO.

Anyone recommending the 1000 uh....

First thing is get into a MSF Basic Rider class before you buy anything. Next thing is budget for riding gear before you buy a bike.

My advice is buy a 650 class dual sport like a KLR 650. The bike is big enough for you not to be cramped up on it. The power, brakes, suspension, etc. are user friendly for a new rider. Ride it for awhile and off-road as much as possible. Learn how to ride on it.

Buy used also, you'll drop it guaranteed. You may be able to find one that is set up for your weight. All bikes will need the suspension adjusted for you. They come from the factory with a 160lb rider in mind!

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