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post #1 of 33 Old 09-06-2019, 10:39 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation How do you deal with "climate change" while riding!?

Lately the weather has been really weird in that it's both hot and cold in the same day on my rides! Part of it is due to the change in terrain, location, elevation, etc.

My favorite Adv ride, the reason I bought this bike, it's about 2 hours of freeway (Desert 100 degrees F in the summer), then I am in the mountains and twisties for an hour, then ride on foredst roads, then turn around go back. and it was about about 70 ambient when I got to the entry of the mountains, so a little chilly with my jacket with no liner. So I pull into a rest area, just sitting still for a few seconds, I'm burning hot again! Yet I got to put the liner in the jacket to deal with the cold damp humid mountain riding (with the shade from the trees on the road making it colder still).

I got frustrated and went back home; I knew darn well if I keep going I was gonna freeze my buns off on the way back, because it would have been dark by then.

So I was pretty frustrated, I had also brought 1-2 long sleeve shirts and I had it all on I was still cold. My top box can only hold so much stuff. I know "layers' is the typical answer. I'm just curious if anyone else found this to be frustrating, and how you dealt with it? It's those days when it's hot and cold both depending on where you are on the ride. If it was strictly hot or cold it's not as bad.
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Jacket with vents, lots of vents
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Layers and perhaps some heated gear. Stay far away from cotton....poly works well. I find it hard above 80 degrees when I have my 3 season Gortex jacket on that can go down near freezing.

Layered mesh with a liner and a windproof rain jacket can cover a wide range of conditions including full rain and I'm good to 95F ..wetting an underlayer really helps...even the whole mesh jacket.

Heated gloves are good to just above freezing...I use heated liners so a single pair of gloves. Poly long johns or ColdPruf merino poly mix is very good and packs down very small. AN oversized ColdPruf top is my go to when I'm chilly...poly long sleeve should be what you wear underneath everything.

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https://www.amazon.com/s?k=coldpruf+...nb_sb_ss_i_1_8
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For me, if I'm day tripping I'll wear a wind breaker or thin rain coat (froggtoggs) over my mesh riding jacket. I tend to leave early in the morning when it's down right cool. This keeps me warm until temps rise then I'll peel off the rain coat and am comfortable for the rest of the day. If I ride into the evening I throw that puppy back on and I'm warm again.

When doing a multi day trip where I get cold mornings, warm afternoons and temperature fluctuations from riding into mountains, I wear a proper touring jacket. It does get warm in the afternoons but I find I'm more attentive being a little too warm than a little too cold.
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I enjoy the same variety. During the summer I have pretty much evolved to wearing body armor upper with just a t-shirt for the hot sections. Then I unfurl one of those FreezeOut shell jackets over the armor for the mild chilly part . Then when it gets plain cold I use an electric vest under the armor. Naturally, I have heated grips and a cowboy style neckerchief.
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This is why I used to love winter riding so much, it wasn’t uncomfortable to wear my leather and I never used to get cold at all.
That’s not the case anymore.
I can tell you my most freezing rides have always been Colorado summer mountain rides because you’re acclimatized to 90 during the day and then you can run into pockets of draining cold air from the mountains that are frigid at night. 50 degree temp swings not at all unusual in the mountains/high plains desert.
I’m not so cold resilient anymore and tour with my mesh and leather plus rain/wind layer and down vest, it’s a lot of stuff but gets me through most things comfortably. Including many hot to freezing rain days in the mountains.

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Merino wool base layers. Keep you warm in the cold and are cool when it is hot. Down vest when it gets really chilly.
amazing stuff!
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Merino wool base layers. Keep you warm in the cold and are cool when it is hot. Down vest when it gets really chilly.
amazing stuff!
I was going to bring up a topic about natural base layers. Wool and silk are safer they don’t melt to your skin in a slide or fire.
I like merino wool as well, silk is awesome as a base layer too.
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The melting point of polyester is

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Melting point approximately 482°F (295°C). Tenacity up to 8.5 grams per denier
If you are in those conditions you've got other problems,

Poly blends very well with other fibers to allow controlled performance and I love how quick it dries and how well it packs down.

A poly/merino blend is my prefered material for warmth.
Poly for base layer and long sleeve riding shirts,
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The melting point of polyester is



If you are in those conditions you've got other problems,

Poly blends very well with other fibers to allow controlled performance and I love how quick it dries and how well it packs down.

A poly/merino blend is my prefered material for warmth.
Poly for base layer and long sleeve riding shirts,
One of those problems would be the complications of melted poly.
I know it’s worse case but burns are horrific as it is why tempt fate?
Both my parents worked extensively in burn wards for many many years, I’ve heard enough stories to make me realize it’s something to consider.
Here’s the conclusion to Federal study:


“The low melting point of the synthetic materials and
the energy they absorbed as they changed from a solid to
a liquid significantly decreased the energy transferred to
the mannequin. However, based on these tests, synthetic undergarments pose an increased risk of burn injury because of the possibility that they might melt and stick to the skin when firefighters are exposed to high heat. Undergarments of 100-percent cotton or 100-percent wool did not ignite, melt, or char. Silk undergarments weren’t readily available (only one source was found during an Internet search). A firefighter wearing the silk undergarment would have a higher predicted thermal injury than a firefighter wearing undergarments made from the other fabrics, probably because the silk fabric was so light. The silk undergarment did not melt, but it did begin to char.
Undergarments made of 50-percent polyester and 50-percent cotton showed no sign of melting.
The predicted burn injury generally relates to the weight and thickness of each undergarment. The heavier and thicker the material, the lower the burn injury predicted during these tests.”

Also, a good friend of mine competed in speed skiing in the 80’s at Velocity Peak in Silverton Co.
The injuries they were seeing with wipeouts and sliders on the ice at over 90 mph were burns with clothing melting.
Very real.

From the Marine Corps:

“”When exposed to extreme heat and flames, clothing containing some synthetic materials like polyester will melt and can fuse to the skin. This essentially creates a second skin and can lead to horrific, disfiguring burns, said Navy Capt. Lynn E. Welling, the 1st Marine Logistics Group head surgeon.

Whether on foot patrol or conducting a supply convoy while riding in an armored truck, everyone is at risk to such injuries while outside the wire.

“Burns can kill you and they’re horribly disfiguring. If you’re throwing (a melted synthetic material) on top of a burn, basically you have a bad burn with a bunch of plastic melting into your skin and that’s not how you want to go home to your family,” said Welling.””

In my time I’ve known two people who have died from tank burst fires after crashes.
Enough for me to consider it a very real possibility. Five gallons of gas between your legs is no joke.
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