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post #1 of 6 Old 07-21-2019, 12:38 AM Thread Starter
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Fraudulent Safety Certificate for Motorcycle in Ontario

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Bought a 2008 V-Strom off Kijiji. The first time I saw it and took it for a ride I liked it enough to put in an offer. My offer was finally accepted which included me paying $150 for the safety. I gave them a deposit and I was to pick up the bike in 2 weeks on June 15th. Both brothers were there when I received all the paperwork for the ownership transfer. On the 18th of June the bike went in for an oil change and 10 point safety check. My mechanic at the shop called me and said I shouldn't be riding this bike because the rear tire was bald in the center. I traveled to the shop and sure enough the rear tire was bald in the center. So I first called the motorcycle shop that did the safety Certificate that was approved on June 1st by GP Bikes in Whitby , Ontario. They denied having done anything wrong and so did the two brothers that sold me the bike . Some one switched out the tire after they got the approved safety - that's my guess. Anyways both parties have denied doing anything wrongful. GP Bikes in Whitby offered me a gift certificate for the value of the Rear bald tire but then they reneged on that and instead they offered me a discount on a purchase but wouldn't disclose the size of the offered discount so I didn't accept it. The brother that owned and sold me the bike finally contacted me by text saying " If I sold this bike to you at full price un-certified I would totally agree with your argument. You bought my bike under my asking price Certified. My original asking price was _____." Your fight is not with me . New tire cost $130 plus HST plus I paid $150 plus HST for the Safety Certificate that passed the safety but shouldn't have .

anyone else have any advice regarding this problem or was able themselves to find a solution for the problem
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post #2 of 6 Old 07-21-2019, 03:21 AM
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I think the best thing to do is just go forward and try to forget about the incident. If the tire is the only thing wrong just put the experience in your rear view and enjoy the bike.
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it would not be in the shops interest to get involved in a scam like this over something that would obviously be called out by anyone with minimal knowledge and at least one working eye. its just not worth their time or potential legal trouble.

sounds like the seller pulled a bit of a fast one on you. the question is, is it worth the hassle and time to try and fight for something you can't really prove in court... and that's only worth $130 or less if you accept the shops offer of a discount?

I agree with above, put it behind you as a learning experience, have your mechanic do a thorough safety, replace the tire and get on with enjoying your new motorcycle.

theres some pretty crappy people out there, dont let it ruin your fun.
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You will have a brand new tire on the rear of the bike. And you learned to look at the tires before you hand over the money. Pretty amazing how low some people will stoop. But don't make it your burden. It happened. Move on.
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A safety certificate is not a warranty. GP Bikes offering a discount was very kind of them as they likely did nothing wrong. No way a huge business like that is running safety scams for a few extra bucks, they wouldn't risk the license/reputation. That leaves the seller as the POS, as others have said he likely swapped out the good tire for a bald one after getting the safety. It's not worth the fight for a rear tire.

How far from Kingston are you? If you want to buy a tire and can get it and the bike to Kingston i'll switch out the tire for you for free and will show you how to do it so you can do it on your own next time. The best prices for tires I have found is Pete's Superbike but Fortnine is usually pretty close as well.
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A safety certificate is not a warranty. GP Bikes offering a discount was very kind of them as they likely did nothing wrong. No way a huge business like that is running safety scams for a few extra bucks, they wouldn't risk the license/reputation. That leaves the seller as the POS, as others have said he likely swapped out the good tire for a bald one after getting the safety. It's not worth the fight for a rear tire.
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An Ontario safety cert, while valid for 36 days as a piece of paper, is in no way a warranty, or a guarantee of the condition of the bike. It is simply saying that the bike conforms to the extremely loose Ontario safety regulations at the time that it was inspected. Basically it means extremely little.

I'm too lazy to pull up the motorcycle specific tire requirements, but from memory they are the same as car tire requirements, failure if 2/32 (1.6mm) or less of tread, or wear indicators touching pavement. How bald are we talking about here?

GP Bikes is a massive and very successful shop, I have no doubt that they did a proper safety. Safety's are basically a money maker for most shops as it gives them an easy opportunity to recommend and provide repairs. I don't think they would miss a chance to sell a high profit tire. That's not to mention that the tech is potentially jeopardizing his Ontario technician license (essentially his career), and the shop is jeopardizing their Ontario garage license by writing a bad safety. Techs and shops take safeties very seriously.

Bottom line, suck it up, and buy a new tire (pair of tires is always suggested)

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