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post #1 of 29 Old 04-26-2019, 03:40 AM Thread Starter
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So I live in NYC and motorcycle shops want 120 to 200 to install a pair of tires, last year same shop did for 80 now wants 125 for pair or 70 for 1. On general principle can't pay that as I can get a car tire patched for 15 to 20 bucks at a local flat fix shop, tip the guy 10 bucks and he looks at u like jesus.... Basically will end up changing own tires not to have a bloody anus. Question is do I really need to balance a nice set of Michelin tires? Cam I just line up valve with light spot and call it a day?
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I always just take the wheel in and have them change out the tire and balance. only costs about $30 CAN per wheel. it's the extra labour that's driving up the price.

I'd say that balancing is quite important, you can purchase a unit to do them at home, might pay for itself in time.
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Some will say it's ok, some will say your bike will explode. Personal experience, I don't balance and haven't noticed any problems.
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I would go ahead and balance the tire as peace of mind.

Motorcycle tire balancers are not very expensive on ebay. pick up some adhesive lead weights while you're at it.

If you have the room in your house. look into a motorcycl tire changer. Like you, I did the math on the cost of mc tire replacement. With just a few tire replacement, you will get your money back. especially when you have dirt bikes.

Check on No-Mar Classic tire changer. I didn't like the bottom tier brand by no-mar. the classic seems like the best for the cost.

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I use Ride-On tire balancer and sealant compound. It coats the inner surface of the tire and eliminates the need for wheel weights.

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I always run Michelin PR4s (or whatever PR version is current).

I always change and balance myself, just balancing the wheel-tire assembly on its axle, suspended over a couple 5-gallon pails. IMHO, that works surprisingly well, and the price is right.

Balance matters, I think, but just my opinion, and maybe only if a lot of time is going to be spent at 80 MPH+ (indicated). (My bike spends a fair amount of time there).

Even with Michelins, I find wheel-tire assemblies always out of balance. The problem is mostly in the wheel, in my experience (I've played around with balancing the wheel only (no tire), and it takes quite a bit of weight just to balance the wheel). On the plus side, little, if any, extra weight is then required to balance the wheel-tire assemblies.

Believe it or not, I'd noticed that, when I'd turn loose, completely, of the handlebars of my bike, the head would shake some. At that time all wheel weights were on one side of the wheel (yeah, dumb, but I didn't think it would matter, being so close to the centerline of the bike). At next tire change I tried to put the same number of weights on both sides of the wheel. Made a big difference in "head shake" with hands off the bars.

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I have a Michelin PR4 on the front of my 650 and a Road 5 on the rear, yes they need balanced. Good luck finding the light spot, Michelins aren't marked. I do them myself with stick on weights and a Harbor Freight balencer except when a friend offers his machines.

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So I live in NYC and motorcycle shops want 120 to 200 to install a pair of tires, last year same shop did for 80 now wants 125 for pair or 70 for 1. On general principle can't pay that as I can get a car tire patched for 15 to 20 bucks at a local flat fix shop, tip the guy 10 bucks and he looks at u like jesus.... Basically will end up changing own tires not to have a bloody anus. Question is do I really need to balance a nice set of Michelin tires? Cam I just line up valve with light spot and call it a day?
I dont see how you can compare patching a car tire to replacing motorcycle tires. And are you talking removing and reinstalling the rims yourself?
You dont NEED to do anything! But why wouldnt you balance? And how does someone else's not balancing affect what you do?
If youre that destitute where an additional $40 would keep you from riding, should you even own a motorcycle in the 1st place?
You dont pay to have them balanced. You pay to know they are in balance. Some tires Ive replaced required no weight to balance, but those were few and far between. I have yet to see a motorcycle or car tire manufacturer state that their tires do not need balancing. Have you?
Why would you cheap out on "a nice set of Michelin tires"?
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Get some tire levers and change your own tires. It's more of a technique thing than a brute force thing!



I used to balance tires and have used Dyna Beads and Ride On. I don't bother anymore just line up the mark on the tire with the valve stem. Highway speeds here are 80+ mph, bike is smooth. My advice is mount the tires and take it for a ride. If vibration is bothering you balance the tires.
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Well this can become a long debate.

You can balance the tire on the axle with suitable support. I use a couple of car jack stands. Takes a bit of patience but it works.

An interesting exercise is to check the balance of the worn old tire before you remove it. Then decide if balancing is not overrated. As mentioned above, if you find vibrations at certain speeds, you may need to go back and balance the wheels.
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