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post #31 of 76 Old 04-14-2019, 08:28 AM Thread Starter
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Since you're west of Toronto, I was at Kelley's Cycle Centre in Hamilton yesterday. they have a current (not new though) 1000 in stock with a good looking set of bags on it. Just came in on a trade yesterday morning, wasn't even on their website yet when I saw it in the early afternoon. Since I'm just barely settled into my 650 I didn't get any details on it, but we bought my wifes Kawasaki ER-6N from Kelley's last year, and we've been impressed with the service. If you're not set on new, they're worth checking out.
thanks, just checked their site yesterday afternoon. definitely worth a quick run out when they're open next. even just to sit on or take for a test ride, closer than Peterborough.


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You need a different dealer.
that's the issue, I've gone as wide as the suzuki website shows dealers. after fishing through all the "freds bait and tackle / small engines" I've now found two new 2018's, one is pending sale and I have to wait for the other dealership to open Monday or Tuesday.

[QUOTE=Scottness;5378121]They aren't in stock in any of the Suzuki dealerships in Japan, either. I had to order mine and so far I've waited about a month./QUOTE]

sadly that makes me feel somewhat more comfortable. at the same time though, who inside suzuki thought it would be a good business decision not to have their latest products out when, if not before the season starts. to me that just sounds like there should be a job opening at suzuki.
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Just be aware... the 1000 requires premium fuel whereas the 650 takes regular 87 octane.

I wanted to get a 1000 this year (I've ridden a 2005 650 since 2006) but the prospect of forking out extra $$ for premium gas at every fill-up was a deal-breaker for me.

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Yea that's like an extra dollar per tank to run premium...


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The guy was straight up bullshi**ing you and trying to swing the sale his way.

Now he sells the Versys and it's a nice bike as well, but overall I don't think you could go wrong with either one.

Now you just have to ask yourself if you would purchase from the same guy that basically lied to your face in hopes of getting another sale.
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maybe there isn't much difference between a 2016 and the next gen but I'm not all that comfortable dropping $18k after taxes and stealership charges without even seeing the colour in person or actually sitting on the thing. to be honest, I cant even believe this is a thing in 2019.
Holy cow I didn't realize the exchange rate was so bad between US and CA. According to NADA new bike pricing a new DL1000AL9 V-Strom ABS retails for $12,999 here in Washington State, USA. I would say that would come to about $ 14,500 here out the door. I sure hope you folks are making big buck up there in CA land given the costs of things....

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Now he sells the Versys and it's a nice bike as well, but overall I don't think you could go wrong with either one.

Now you just have to ask yourself if you would purchase from the same guy that basically lied to your face in hopes of getting another sale.
yes, he thinks the versys is the best bike overall that they sell. I dont hate it but much prefer the lines on the V and my days of screaming inline fours is behind me..... but if I was looking for another I would probably wait for the rebirth of the naked katana next year, brings me back to the bike I had in high school.

trusting any salesman is tough, and it takes time to earn trust. for example, I was out for a ride on saturday and stopped at a couple dealership to see what they'd give me. my usual guy brought the blue book, spun it around and showed me. then explained a couple other factors like sales that were on right now that might bring down what I could get for it and said if i wanted to get the most for it I should list it online first. of course I already knew that, I just wanted the official numbers to know what to list it at. then I went into the suzi dealer armed with that knowledge and asked them what it was worth. he pulled out the blue book, leafed through it and gave me a number almost $2k less than the other dealer, then quickly put the book away. either they just didn't want it, which really doesnt matter as I'd be selling it privately anyway (if at all) or they were trying to make a nice profit. I would have preferred an honest answer. I understand they're a business and have to make money, but just how much do they need to make off of someone buying a new bike from them?

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Holy cow I didn't realize the exchange rate was so bad between US and CA. According to NADA new bike pricing a new DL1000AL9 V-Strom ABS retails for $12,999 here in Washington State, USA. I would say that would come to about $ 14,500 here out the door. I sure hope you folks are making big buck up there in CA land given the costs of things.... <img src="https://www.stromtrooper.com/images/StromTrooper_2015/smilies/tango_face_surprise.png" border="0" alt="" title="EEK! Surprise!" class="inlineimg" />
it's the taxes and I might have made a slight rounding error with my quick calculations. but yes we use different money and from your list price, I'm not sure the exchange rate is properly reflected in the prices.

new here are $13,499 and $14,099 (they both just got a $500 spring discount, lucky I waited). then PDI and delivery, it's been a few since I bought a new bike but think it was over $500 last time. and then the harmonized sales tax of 13%. I wouldnt be surprised if they've weaseled a carbon tax on top of all that too. so that would bring it to around $17k out the door ( less the $500 discount now).
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Twenty, I was mis-informed. The 1000 that Kelly's in Hamilton has is not current, it's a 2014. They've got it on their website now:

https://kellyscyclecentre.com/Pre-Ow...zuki-DL1000-SE
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Twenty, it's funny you say that about the Versys...
When I bought my '14 DL1K, the Versys 1000 was one of the bikes I was considering.
I like its spacious luggage, and the seat was very comfortable.

But after 30 years of inline-4s, I wanted a V-Twin.
The Vstrom has more legroom for me, the luggage, while slimmer, facilitates parking in my garage, I like the 19" front tire...and that torque!!! I dont need to wring this engine's neck to get it to move RIGHT NOW. Downshifting to pass is purely optional. 45-50 mpg.
The Versys1000 is 50-60 lbs heavier, and not all that different in layout than my '00 ZRX1100.
One of my riding buds has a bought a Versys1000, and outside of the squishy suspension and high-rpm engine vibration he likes it. Bur he is somewhat "height-impaired", and the Vstrom100 was just too tall for him. He didnt want to play the shorter seat/lowering suspension game, and it's a good match for his ZX10. But he wanted the Vstrom 1000.
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They aren't in stock in any of the Suzuki dealerships in Japan, either. I had to order mine and so far I've waited about a month./QUOTE]

sadly that makes me feel somewhat more comfortable. at the same time though, who inside suzuki thought it would be a good business decision not to have their latest products out when, if not before the season starts. to me that just sounds like there should be a job opening at suzuki.
Yep, huge backorder. The dealers nationwide sold out of stock available in Japan about 2 months ago. So unfortunate.
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I don't know why Suzuki doesn't get the respect they deserve. They do seem to get treated like they are always late to the party. I find this ironic as the V-Storm 650 and 1000 are standouts in their respective classes. I can't think of any other liter bike that offers the balance of the V-Strom 1000. True the Africa Twin is better for off-road but the Suzuki is better at eating up the paved miles. Part of me thinks if the V-Strom 1000 cost $2,000 more it would get more respect.

It may seem like too good a deal so there must be something wrong with the bike which keeps some buyers away but that suits me just fine. Given the crazy discounts offered on a brand new bike I am surprised more people don't buy them. Sure some have more hp or more amenities but can anyone say any 1000cc twin lacks passing power? An inline four will rev 3000 rpm higher and put out way more hp but that is not very useful for touring. Being able to roll the throttle on at 3,000 rpm in third gear and whip past that mobile home on a mountain road is the performance a touring bike needs and the V-Strom 1000 does just that. It is a little like a backup quarter back or Vice President. It may not get all the attention but that doesn't mean it isn't a top performer.

To the OP, find a good deal on one and bring it home. I'm 99.9999999% certain you'll love it.

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Twenty, I was mis-informed. The 1000 that Kelly's in Hamilton has is not current, it's a 2014. They've got it on their website now:

https://kellyscyclecentre.com/Pre-Ow...zuki-DL1000-SE
no worries, thanks for the info
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