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post #11 of 76 Old 04-12-2019, 01:09 PM
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My 2006 Dl650 has 202,400+ km / 125,700+ miles when i parked it in my hanger. It sat there for several years until a ech from work got it and got it running again. No engine issues ever.

My 2012 DL650 was turning great when I sold it. 139,500+ km / 86,700+ miles at that time. As far as I know the new owner is still riding it (he was turning it into an off-road bike.)

My 2015 DL1000 has 163,400+ km / 101,500+ miles. riding it every day.

RCACS had 271,000 km / 168,000 + miles and replaced his cam chain tensioner. As far as I know that was the first time he had bee nin the engine apart from valve checks.

Kith, has ridden over 400,000 miles on his 202 DL1000. It is pretty much worn out and still ridable and iirc he never had to do any engine work apart from routine.

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is why I chose the 'strom over some other options back when I was shopping.

Your dealer is blowing smoke. I'd be far more concerned about him than about the reliability of the Suzuki engines.
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wow, thanks for all the replies.

I'd like to say I'm a good mechanic but after spending the last 20 min trying to figure out how to add my location through the user cp..... I'm not sure I should be allowed outside on my own. my vehicles only see the inside of a dealership for warranty / recall work and only to a garage for work i can't or dont want to do at home ( AC, tires, etc).

I'm in Ontario, close to Toronto. I know Suzuki (cars anyway) were much more popular in la belle province but their motorcycles were very popular here.

I had a feeling he was talking more as a salesman than a friend but just wanted some reassurance. while this may not be my forever bike, I'm thinking it will be my for a long, long time bike.

girlfriend says I have to make some room in the garage before I can buy another bike, luckily they're calling for sun and 14 here today, time wash some bikes and make some decisions. which bike to sell...... or us it time to trade in the girlfriend 🤣
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Wherebouts near Toronto are you?

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2006 DL650: 202,000 km 125,500 miles, Sold
2012 DL650 139,500+ km, 86,700+ miles. Sold
2015 DL1000 New July 2015 165,000+ km, 103,000+ miles.

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There are a few Suzuki dealers in the GTA. I bought mine in Newmarket, but Snow City and Ready powersports have Vstroms in the showroom. Mind you Ready has a brand new 2013 650 they are asking $1000 more than I paid for my 2017 last year in Newmarket.

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Just be aware... the 1000 requires premium fuel whereas the 650 takes regular 87 octane.

I wanted to get a 1000 this year (I've ridden a 2005 650 since 2006) but the prospect of forking out extra $$ for premium gas at every fill-up was a deal-breaker for me.

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hey tom, I get the distinct feeling we've talked before on a forum far, far away...... I'm about a 45 min drive west of Toronto.

I'm not too concerned about using premium, always have in my bikes whether they call for it or not since they brought out the ethonal. theres still a few stations here that don't have any in their premium.

newmarket isnt too far and I do have one about 25 min down the road, they just dont have any in stock. the next one was a half hour the other way but they dont have any new, seems odd that suzuki calls them dealers?? I would want the dealer to be somewhat close for parts or warranty. I have 3 or more kawi dealers, same for yami dealers in my town or just across the border, just caught me off guard.

off to wash another bike, this is gonna be tougher than I thought, think I might just have to sneak one off to the cottage while shes not looking....
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Twenty, I run premium in my '14 DL1K because that is what's called for in 2 versions: The decal on the left side of the instrument cluster says "Use Premium fuel...", while the owner's manual says "Requires premium fuel..." and at no time to use anything other than Premium. During a conversation with the regional Suzuki service rep at the Chicago bike show 2 years ago he volunteered--with no prompting or question by me-- that although Premium is recommended, there is no problem using regular.
The dealerships send their bikes out with regular, and those(car) dealerships that have on-site gas pumps( like the ones I worked at) always had regular, not Premium. The price difference between the 2 isnt enough to dissuade me from using what's recommended, and if I can't afford the recommended fuel I shouldnt even own a motorcycle in the 1st place.

As for reliability, I dont have enough miles on my Vstrom to judge it's reliability one way of another EXCEPT for 3 factors: 1) It starts immediately and with no driveabilty issues no matter how long it sits. 2) It runs the same way--excellent-- every single ride. Not so much as a sneeze, cough, or fart. Just smooth, steady power at any time. 3) Stuck in a 1.5 hour traffic jam in I-57 on the way back from Deals Gap, 105F degrees(or higher) inching along , ambient temp gauge reading 122F, and the fan never came on nor did the engine temp gauge go over it's normal 3-bar middle reading. Traffic opened up, no engine knock on acceleration, no flat spots, no nothing--just business as usual. I was mightily impressed. Still am.
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your salesman friend who you've known for 30+ years is just being a salesman.
the other possibility is he is uninformed.

I prefer to get my 'information' from motorcycle reviews by legitimate outfits/reviewers and forums. While I know some salespeople are sincere they are often uninformed and for me they are the last source of information I would rely on. I'm speaking generally here. I know there are some who are enthusiasts but its pretty easy to test their knowledge about a machine you are interested in if you have done a little research.
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The engine has been around for a long time. If there isn't a Suzuki dealer around the local shop has a mechanic that knows his way around it. Suzuki dealers are usually combined with Kawasaki and KTM out here. I have 3 dealers within a 100 Km here but when I lived in the Kootenays the closest was 250km away. The local Honda shop in Nelson did my first valve check. No problem as the tech does the valve checks on all the local Stroms and thinks they are a hell of a lot easier to work on than some other makes.

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Just be aware... the 1000 requires premium fuel whereas the 650 takes regular 87 octane.

I wanted to get a 1000 this year (I've ridden a 2005 650 since 2006) but the prospect of forking out extra $$ for premium gas at every fill-up was a deal-breaker for me.

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I rode over 50,000 km last year. I used 2871.955 liters of fuel.

If they all were Premium (they weren't) I would have paid $574.20 extra for the year (based on 20 cents extra per liter for Premium) My total for fuel in 2018 was $3,976.08 so really it's just a small part of riding. If I did the mileage most people did I would have probably only spent an extra $200 or less the year.

Now not all the gas that went into my DL1000 last year was Premium. There were places (Newfoundland and Labrador and South Western USA) where there simply wasn't premium so I ran regular. It runs fine on regular although I avoided high throttle settings at low RPM so as to minimize the risk of detonation.

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2012 DL650 139,500+ km, 86,700+ miles. Sold
2015 DL1000 New July 2015 165,000+ km, 103,000+ miles.

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SMIDSY detailed report.


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