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post #61 of 66 Old 04-13-2019, 11:06 AM
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The longer intervals in Europe relate to the much higher quality of even the poorest gas available. Because of tighter emission standards their lowest quality gas (not talking octane, talking additives) is as good or better than our top-tier gas while in North America there are many stations selling gas that barely meets the standards from over 20 years ago.
Some of the issues could also be related to the ethanol content of gasoline, especially if the bike isn't used very often, as the shelf life of ethanol containing gas is shorter than pure gas. Around here in Florida we have WaWa, which sells ethanol-free gas, mostly intended for boats, but I've been using it in my V-Strom and it's been running fine, not that I let the bike sit around much.
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This is how I understand the difference between NA and the rest of the world for oil changes:

The longer intervals in Europe relate to the much higher quality of even the poorest gas available. Because of tighter emission standards their lowest quality gas (not talking octane, talking additives) is as good or better than our top-tier gas while in North America there are many stations selling gas that barely meets the standards from over 20 years ago.

Case in point: Porsche started doing oil changes at 24,000 km /15,000 mile back in 1993 when they started using Synthetic oil. This was for both the air-cooled 911 and for the liquid cooled 968 and 928. This held until 2005. At that point Porsche increased the oil-change intervals to two years or 30,000 km / 19,000 miles. This held until 2007. Porsche started looking at oil coming out of cars with the 30,000 km changes and noticed that in North America some engines showed a lot of deterioration of the oil. At that time they went back to yearly oil changes or 15,000 km / 9,000 miles in North America.

I think if comes down to longer intervals are going to be fine with synthetic and if you stick to quality gas (ie Top-Tier.)

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When i talked to mechanics at the dealership, i was told that it was because oil standards were higher in europe. Going for oem oil exclusively solved that issue, since it meets all of the engineers' requirements.

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Going to start just changing filter

I'll start of saying I only use synthetic oil, since I'm an amsoil dealer. Now having said that, after buying this Vee last summer I was changing oil every 2k because the clutch seemed to work better, now after last Saturday, and tearing into the clutch, it seems whoever worked on it last may have introduced the issue. I have come to the conclusion "whoever" did not torque down the spring bolts (right name?, not sure), but clutch seems to be more snappy. I did discover the clutch basket should be replaced and have it on my wish list, along with other clutch rebuild parts.
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Big B [Quote]"When EVER in doubt, refer to the 1000 here with 400K plus miles using nothing but car oil and Fram oil filters. Pretty sure Kith goes with extended oil change intervals as well, and how is/are filtered metal particles mixing around in our oil? Blackstone oil analysis tells it ALL and many here do that, and that includes any metals in the oil and everything else. I agree that all in all oil is cheap, but I don't ever change my oil until 4k/5K miles, and I always change filter every other change. I'm in the full synthetic oil camp, see no reason to not run full synthetic.
I will also reference the Honda Valkyrie 1500's which I also own, MANY owners worldwide have 200K miles plus and one guy has over 500K miles, most all owners extend their mileage due to running full synthetic oil. The only reason I change mine at the intervals I do, is a slight decrease in shifting quality, but I am quite confident the oil is still protecting as it should. Paranoia will destroy ya, much more often than an engine being destroyed.[Unquote]
Fret not, Big B, I'm not in doubt at all. What others do for maintenance means not a thing to me. I do what works for me, at the intervals I want to do it based on my occupational experience. Just because others have gone a zillion miles on an oil change without a problem doesnt guarantee I--or anybody else--will be able to do the same. I alone am responsible for the health and well-being of my vehicles.
As we all are in one way or another.
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RealShelby can hook the brother up w/ the clutch basket issue.
Check him out, ask questions & get it fixed Right!!!!!

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I would be surprised if I hit 12,000KM in a year, so yearly oil changes it is!

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