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post #21 of 66 Old 04-06-2019, 09:06 PM
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If you're really concerned, have the oil tested every few thousand miles. Not too expensive. This is what fleet owners do. Pays off when an oil change is 50 quarts or so. Find the mileage at which it begins to deteriorate and use that for oil changes.

I run full synthetic, ride mostly freeways and change every 5K miles.

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I need to look at my manual. I could have sworn it said 6,000KM and no mention of a filter every other change. But I am forgetful. Going to pull it out and review.
Yep, 6k, filter every three oil changes.

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I'm not paranoid at all. I have my own maintenance regimen just as I'm sure others have theirs. I do the work and move on, no fear involved.
No need to justify or explain your regimen to anybody. Do what works for you and gives you peace of mind, just as I do what works--and has worked for me.

Webfors, my '14 DL1K manual shows the oil being replaced every 3500 miles, the oil filter replaced after 2 successive oil changes without changing the filter.
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I use a full synthetic on my 650. Had it analyzed and is still good when I change it at 6,000 miles.

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I just changed my oil at 20,000 kms with the Filter .

I do it every 5000 kms because its easy to remember & the Filter every 10 thou

I noticed the oil was still very red - Motul 7100 fully synthetic so I think I'll make the routine every 10,000 kms oil & filter .

This after your comments & reading about the guy who got to 400,000 kms on his DL1000 whoa

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Blackstone Labs does engine oil testing and provides recommendations based upon condition of oil samples.


If I'm not mistaken, there have been a number of people on this site that have utilized their services.. I'd be interested in hearing feedback from people here that have used Blackstone as to what mileage recommendations/oil change intervals they are getting...

Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?


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Oil is the toothpaste for your engine. Do you brush your teeth after every meal or once a week?
The debate has a different minty flavor when you think of it that way.
Oil is the most important thing you can feed your bike. Forget the numbers. Be a good parent and brush those teeth. Often. It is cheap and gives you time in the garage. Priceless.
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Yup. Why should I run my Wee on regular if I can run it on premium gas? Who cares what manufacturer recommends I know better and I have my own rules.
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post #29 of 66 Old 04-07-2019, 01:25 AM
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Motul 7100 fully synthetic so I think I'll make the routine every 10,000 kms oil & filter .
Yep ....twice the distance as recommended and the top oil.

I was hooked on the full synthetic when I saw the Lincoln test on Mobile one. The filled a brand new engine with Mobile One and only changed the filter ..never changed the oil for 100,000 miles - topped as needed.
They pulled it apart and the engine was "as new" ...still had the cylinder machining marks.
The engineers were impressed ....so was I.

I'll use the mineral oil for break in but then synthetic all the way.

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Manufacturers used to recommend short OCIs to keep business in their shops. Then while doing the oil they might see some other service required.

Now the EPA is leaning on them to use longer OCIs to reduce the waste stream and cars that require less service are viewed as cheaper by the buying public.

Toyota is now at 10,000 mile OCI with synthetic oils. I use that until warranty is over then move to 15,000 mile OCIs.

On both my Strom and my Tenere I use an OCI of 5,000 miles with synthetic oil. I have tested oil from both of them and could easily go 7,500 to 10,000 miles. I use shorter intervals because I pamper my bikes. I do not mind wasting a little money on them.
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