Securing your bike for wheel removal and more ? - Stromtrooper Forum : Suzuki V-Strom Motorcycle Forums
General V-Strom Discussion Talk about all things V-Strom not limited to just one of the above models

 28Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 40 Old 08-18-2018, 08:26 AM Thread Starter
Stromthusiast!
 
RestoRider2017's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Apopka Florida NW of Orlando near a twist in the road and a hill on the horizon...
Posts: 298
Garage
Securing your bike for wheel removal and more ?

Hey friends, As many of you know I've been asking about lifts and stands, as well as gearing changes on the Vstrom.
So I have a question for those who do their own service work or have seen how it's done in the shops. So here it goes.

The Vstrom has a different type frame than most of the bikes I've ever had. A cradle or perimeter frame has rails that
run down both sides and the engines sets IN the frame. And they can be braced and lifted from underneath with a jack.

I picture having this problem weather it's on the garage floor or on a motorcycle lift . So with the Vstrom you have just
the engine hanging from the frame as a stressed member as well as the exhaust pipes and not much if any Flat surface
to support it while lets say doing : Wheel removal front or rear, Fork spring upgrades which involve removing the entire
front end. I know a center stand would help but what if you don't have one on your bike? How do you brace and support the bike
so you can safely do this work ? Wheel chokes on a motorcycle lift are to be used to hold the bike when the wheels are on.
So what about when the wheels need to come off.... One at a time....

I know there are some really smart people on this forum that can shed some light on how this is done on a Vstrom.
After all preparation is knowing what you need to do before the work begins.

2017 DL 650 , Shad 23 side bags, Givi crash bars, 32 watt LED driving lights ,
Goldwing pegs, silver front fender, Lazer cut aluminum Chain guard, Madstad 20" windshield
light smoke tint , Blu/blk Driven Racing Billet bar ends.

"any comments made on this forum are purely for amusement purposes only.
not to be confused with actual knowledge"

Last edited by RestoRider2017; 08-18-2018 at 08:30 AM.
RestoRider2017 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 40 Old 08-18-2018, 08:57 AM
Stromthusiast!
 
locoblanco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Arizona
Posts: 762
Garage
Stands to lift rear and front are a very good way to go, and pitbull brand seems to be the best, according to most folks, myself included. You should get spools for the swing arm to use the rear stand, although the stand has reversible fittings which will lift from under the swing arm. The spools are more steady. For the front, be sure to get the "new" model stand. My older front stand, made before 2012, was not large enough to fit around the 19 inch wheel. Then you need the correct pin to fit the hole under the steering stem.( #8t for the wee, the website has a chart.) Always lift the rear first, before the front, even if you're not working on the rear, as it steadies the bike.
Naturally a centerstand is useful, especially on a trip. Centerstand takes care of anything you might need to do in the rear. There is a flat spot under the engine, just a bit back from the oil filter, and a bottle jack there will raise the front after the bike is on the centerstand. Or, once on the centerstand, a heavy weight on the seat will raise the front. Obviously the weight varies with whatever accessories you have on the bike.
RestoRider2017 likes this.

I don't want a pickle, I just want to ride my motorsickle. A. Guthrie.
locoblanco is offline  
post #3 of 40 Old 08-18-2018, 09:04 AM
Stromthusiast!
 
PerazziMx14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,199
You have several options.

You can suspend the bike from garage rafters with ratchet straps. Is is a good idea to put a couple 4 x 4's across several of the trusses to help spread the load out. You can then drop four (4) 1/2" eye bolt down below the ceiling level if the ceiling is finished.

Put one end of the bike in a wheel chock/vise then use a jack under the engine with a block of wood to make up for case anomalies and raise up the opposite wheel. This only allows one wheels at a time to be removed.

Get a set of paddock stands. 1st stand raises and supports the rear of the bike then the front stand goes under the forks or lower triple tree bracket in the steering stem bolt to raise the front of the bike. This allows both wheels to be removed at the same time. Prefer to use the type that uses the steering stem to hold the bike in case you want to work on the forks.

You can also get a whole bike frame jack.

You can gently lay the bike on it side. Not ideal but sometimes you just have too.
Attached Images
File Type: png Paddock stands.png (46.8 KB, 169 views)
File Type: jpg Bike jack.jpg (13.6 KB, 170 views)
PerazziMx14 is online now  
 
post #4 of 40 Old 08-18-2018, 09:54 AM
Stromthusiast!
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Pasadna area
Posts: 13,051
Wow, I just use the center stand to remove the rear wheel and a jack under the engine to clear the front for removal. If there is no bash plat I'll put a piece of 2X4 to cushion the jack against the engine.
When the front wheel is off I've been know to lower the forks down on paint cans or similar to stabilize the bike while the wheels are off.
I like the 2X4 in the rafters with eye bolts idea though.
Big B and RestoRider2017 like this.
notacop is offline  
post #5 of 40 Old 08-18-2018, 10:58 AM Thread Starter
Stromthusiast!
 
RestoRider2017's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Apopka Florida NW of Orlando near a twist in the road and a hill on the horizon...
Posts: 298
Garage
All nice options, Although none involve the use of a motorcycle lift or table. And thats fine, but I can see where I would
have to rent a garage space just to put all the stuff I need to lift a bike in my own garage.

My shop has a rather low ceiling height at just about 7' 6 " And is covered in plywood. So no exposed beams or trusses.
I can however see where the nails went in so eye bolts could be installed to make the lift action work.

Thanks for the tips. If you have info on the costs of some of these stands shown in the photos above please respond.

thanks jake

2017 DL 650 , Shad 23 side bags, Givi crash bars, 32 watt LED driving lights ,
Goldwing pegs, silver front fender, Lazer cut aluminum Chain guard, Madstad 20" windshield
light smoke tint , Blu/blk Driven Racing Billet bar ends.

"any comments made on this forum are purely for amusement purposes only.
not to be confused with actual knowledge"
RestoRider2017 is offline  
post #6 of 40 Old 08-18-2018, 11:41 AM
Stromthusiast!
 
PerazziMx14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,199
Thumbs up

Quote:
Originally Posted by RestoRider2017 View Post
All nice options, Although none involve the use of a motorcycle lift or table. And thats fine, but I can see where I would
have to rent a garage space just to put all the stuff I need to lift a bike in my own garage.

My shop has a rather low ceiling height at just about 7' 6 " And is covered in plywood. So no exposed beams or trusses.
I can however see where the nails went in so eye bolts could be installed to make the lift action work.

Thanks for the tips. If you have info on the costs of some of these stands shown in the photos above please respond.

thanks jake

The wheel chock, wheel vise and rafters can all use a motorcycle lift.


For the rafters and eyebolts put them above the table. Jack the bike up with the table tie it up with straps then lower the table while the bike stays suspended. It'll be just like a kinky VStom sex swing BDSM video. Whips and PVC gimp outfits optional
PerazziMx14 is online now  
post #7 of 40 Old 08-18-2018, 12:01 PM
$tromtrooper
 
Stalky Tracker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Sconsin, USA
Posts: 3,684
Garage
As notacop, I use the center stand to change the rear tire. For front end work I use the center stand and usually throw a couple of bags lawn fertilizer or anything about 40-80 lbs or so across the pillion seat. Though a grand-kid and a cell phone works sometimes too. I have tethered to the rafters as a safety precaution in the past, but now just put a old scissors jack under the skid plate instead.
Big B, VSrider and Coach23101 like this.

2020 Eastern V-Strom Rally (website) - May 14 - 17, 2020
__________________________________
2006 Suzuki V-Strom DL650K
1986 Honda Shadow VT700C
1974 Suzuki TM-250
1966 Triumph Bonneville T-120R
1965 Suzuki 80
Stalky Tracker is offline  
post #8 of 40 Old 08-18-2018, 06:08 PM
Stromthusiast!
 
bigboy292000's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: TX
Posts: 666
Years ago I bought a custom adapter which allows my Wee to be lifted up securely using a regular flat motorcycle jack. The adapter bolts into the engine. Vendor name was Dan Vesel. Found that he was still selling accessories last year not sure if still going on or if he still sells this.

https://www.vstrom.info/Smf/index.php/topic,1554.0.html

EDIT: this is what it looks like; basically - you bolt this onto the bike and then you can rise it using a regular flat lift, both wheels come up no sweat, tie it to the lift with some straps and that's it. I have had both wheels off several times.


09 WABS w. some farkles & teeth
[URL="https://www.stromtrooper.com/showthread.php?t=35638&page=3"]Strom Squadron Member #5[/URL]

Last edited by bigboy292000; 08-18-2018 at 07:28 PM.
bigboy292000 is offline  
post #9 of 40 Old 08-18-2018, 08:22 PM Thread Starter
Stromthusiast!
 
RestoRider2017's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Apopka Florida NW of Orlando near a twist in the road and a hill on the horizon...
Posts: 298
Garage
Big boy, most of that jig looks like it's bolted together only a few parts are actually welded.
So this could be fabricated pretty easy with some physical dimensions. Nice !
Birchgroover likes this.

2017 DL 650 , Shad 23 side bags, Givi crash bars, 32 watt LED driving lights ,
Goldwing pegs, silver front fender, Lazer cut aluminum Chain guard, Madstad 20" windshield
light smoke tint , Blu/blk Driven Racing Billet bar ends.

"any comments made on this forum are purely for amusement purposes only.
not to be confused with actual knowledge"
RestoRider2017 is offline  
post #10 of 40 Old 08-18-2018, 09:33 PM
Stromthusiast!
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Pasadna area
Posts: 13,051
" that jig looks like it's bolted together "

Looks like 1/4-20 heaven bolt wise. Notice the ends are nicely ground round to protect the operator from injury. Nicely done.
notacop is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Stromtrooper Forum : Suzuki V-Strom Motorcycle Forums forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome