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post #1 of 19 Old 01-21-2018, 01:26 AM Thread Starter
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Sorry, I took no pictures today.

I was at the show about 15 minutes after it opened this morning. The crowds usually get crazy just after lunch, and I hate having to weed through people standing around chatting so I can sit on a bike, or look at something without being jostled.

As usual the show is mostly street bikes, Harley and Indian took up one row end, with Yamaha in the center, then BMW on the other front spot with Ducati next to that, Moto Guzzi and Suzuki on the far end.

The second half has everyone else, Honda, Triumph, Can-Am, KTM and various others.

My eyes kind of glaze over with all the street bikes. I have zero interest in those, so there are only a half dozen bikes I go to see really, although I admit, I do sit on some of the street bikes, just to try to imagine what I would be thinking if I was 20. Still, find it hard to imagine, but maybe back then speed was the only thing I was interested in. Now days its all about Adventure.

Tenere was there looking lonely, not much interest in it from what I could see, people just past by it. R1200GS is very hot, big crowds of people standing around it, sitting on it etc. Same with Africa Twin, very popular. VStrom was similar to Tenere, quiet, but lots of Suzuki bikes to choose from and I think the DRZ's are a favorite at the show.

The new Honda Goldwing had a demo in progress and I could only shake my head at the size and weight of the thing, incredible. I am sure it weighs more than my car. Probably wonderful on the highway.. end of story, everywhere else it sucks.

I sat on the Ducati Multistrada Enduro, that was a nice bike, looked pretty and functional and fit me well, then I looked at the price. 3X what I paid for my VStrom, there I go, rolling my eyes again.

KTM bikes look nice too, some of them, not sure I could pick just one though, they have so many models now, they seem to have overdone it IMO.

Aprlia Caponord was there today, only one of them, way down in a far corner. Nice bike, comfortable, but way down on popularity list, not sure why.

I came out of the show thinking how happy I am with my current bike, especially since it's fully farkled, and all paid off. In a few more years I will look again perhaps.
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There is a multistrada enduro here at Savage cycle that I was ogling last week. Very nice little bit of kit.

Did they have much for clothing and gear?


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Which Tenere did they have there? Was teh T7 or XT7 there?
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That was so different from our big show last weekend at the dome in St. Louis, MO. I guess it really varies by area. We had five BMW 1200GS advs sitting next to each other in the center of the dome from the big BMW dealer in town and I think at that time I was the only guy checking them out. There was a empty zone around them. I think the problem was they had the prices on them as demo units which were all over $20k USD (marked down from about $24k) as loaded and it scared everyone away.

A lot of folks were crowded around the Polaris Slingshots and there were six of them. Next was a section of all legacy/antique bikes that was pretty busy. There was a constant crowd around the Versys X 300. Harley and the Japanese bikes had moderate interest. Indians had a lot of interest. There just wasn't the big interest from Millennials that they have been hoping for on the new little retros and bobbers. Most of the younger people I saw were still around the sport bikes or off-road.

The BMW zone - the entire BMW dealer area was amazingly empty. I think price and poor reliability hurts them here generally. I wonder if they could have given those outrageously priced demo 1200's away that day?






Harley was moderately busy and Indian very busy
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Which Tenere did they have there? Was teh T7 or XT7 there?
Sorry I didn't spend any time looking at them. I only saw the one in the middle and didn't note any details about it. I love the shaft drive, larger front wheel and the build quality looks good, but that extra weight just makes it look bulky, kills it for me. Maybe I would change my mind with a demo ride.
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I was there yesterday from about 11 to about 6. Spent some time in the beer garden (hic!) and had a quick bite from the food truck.

While I generally agree with @Bugzy and his assessment, I'll tell you that I was a little more interested in some of the street bikes - only a very few, mind you. I thought Suzuki did a great job with the V-Strom, as they had a number of 'Stroms there, and some were lowered both with links and lower seats. My girlfriend currently rides an Indian Scout, but is very interested in an Africa Twin... or was, until yesterday. She felt the V-Strom felt much better, and really it's a spectacular deal for what you get. what I didn't like was the answer I got on the 250. They said it didn't pass US inspection, which I can find no evidence of. Just admit, it's not out yet, not sure on a date.

I sat on the Tenere, and it felt much like my 650. That wasn't the case for some of the other bikes, like the Multistrada or the KTM. The GS though - oh my, it felt great. I need to be happy with the bike I have....

I did sit on the new GoldWing and it was AMAZINGLY light to get off the stand, and felt really quite good. The bagger version, in 20 years, may be what I move to. LOL.

I also sat on a number of the retro-styled bikes, and the one I liked the most was the one I went to see - the Kawasaki Z900RS. That's a nice bike, and if Kawi was to do their full ergo-fit treatment on it like they do on the small Vulcan, that would be a real consideration for me. I sat on the Triumphs, which was hard by the beer hall, and a bunch of others.

There wasn't much gear, to answer a question. I did get some of the large rok-straps from the distributor for $30 cash no tax, a good deal. Mosko Moto was there as well. Then the centre of the back hall was some gear and such, but a lot of floor space was open. Up Your Leather was there, of course, as were some of the other vendors - but they were close to the bandana crowd.

There were distributors - I met the new owner of Touratech Canada, Marc from Quebec, who is a decent guy. He had Grant Johnson there at the booth, so it was a treat to meet him, and cemented my plans for the HU Canwest meeting. There was also the distributor (again, Quebec) for Givi/Kappa. The biggest gear was actually at Checkpoint Yamaha beside the beer hall. Most of the others didn't have much in the way of sizing, etc, and were more showroom than sales floor.

There were some other interesting vendors. I've been toying with the idea of an Ireland motorcycle trip, and Liam at Celtic Rider has cemented what company we will use for that. Other than that, it was the same as always - a couple of injury lawyers and a couple of insurance brokers (they should make those guys fight it out somehow), some jewellery, some "this product will make your bike invincible, just rub it on" guys, some chrome shining guys....

Dunlop was there, which was interesting. They were very bored, but they did have their new 90/10 adv tire out to look at. Looks very much like a Trailwing or Battlewing. no other major vendors like them, though.

All in all - it was what I expect. A regional show. If we want more, we have to go to AIM, or NY at least. Canada's shows will always be run by the dealers. Just like our auto shows - save for the Toronto auto show. But the Toronto motorbike show is mostly local-dealer supported. Yes, Suzuki and Honda each had national guys there, but most of the people you talked to were local guys.

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There is a multistrada enduro here at Savage cycle that I was ogling last week. Very nice little bit of kit.

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Most of the clothing was street gear, black leather gloves, chaps, beany helmets, cruiser jackets etc, but there was some more sporty stuff there as well like multi color adventure jackets and such, a couple of one piece suits, but I didn't spend any time looking at them, I have a Roadcrafter so beyond all that now. I did not see any racing gloves at all and that is the only kind I wear these days, dress for the crash IMO. My Sidi Rain boots are only 10 years old now, still like new, well, a bit scuffed, but totally functional and good for many more years.

I'm not really sure why I go to these shows, I don't lust over anything at the moment. Added a drone to my arsenal this year, so trying to work that into my gear at the moment (charging station etc).
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Can someone explain why a DRZ400 is $1,000+ more than a DR650? Surely a radiator isn't that expensive?!

Sounds like Vancouver was much like Calgary, although here there were several R1200GS's on display. Actually, BMW had a very large display. Also, new (as far as I can recall) were vendors for LS2 helmets, and another that had a lot of Olympia gear and Scorpion helmets (can't remember their names though). Overall though, I think there were either fewer vendors or similar numbers but taking less space.

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Can someone explain why a DRZ400 is $1,000+ more than a DR650? Surely a radiator isn't that expensive?!

Sounds like Vancouver was much like Calgary, although here there were several R1200GS's on display. Actually, BMW had a very large display. Also, new (as far as I can recall) were vendors for LS2 helmets, and another that had a lot of Olympia gear and Scorpion helmets (can't remember their names though). Overall though, I think there were either fewer vendors or similar numbers but taking less space.
Yeah, the LS2 guys were at this one too. If you talk to any of the guys on the floor, that aren't local dealers, you hear it... "So 2 weeks ago Calgary, then last week Edmonton... Vancouver... then back to the East to Toronto and finish in Montreal...". All of them are on a 6 week jaunt, so the big displays are at all the events. The only difference would be the local vendors, as some of the vendors are on the same tour as the big guys.

@Bugzy - me too! Mine is a DJI Mavic Pro, which is nice and compact - which one did you add?

@richlandrick Regarding the T7... hahahaha no such luck. We are pokey little Canada. We account for fewer bikes than all of California I reckon. They won't be releasing a brand new model up here - that will happen next year at Japan or EICMA, or perhaps at the AIM show wherever that will be (I think Vegas next year?). I think Yamaha has been focused on getting the branding straight across their street bikes between NA and Europe (now calling the FZ line the MT, just like Europe). The only Tenere was the one we know and love.
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me too! Mine is a DJI Mavic Pro, which is nice and compact - which one did you add?
I have the same one, two batteries so far, want to add one more. I primarily want it so I can see what is over the hill in the distance that I have no way of getting to. Always curious, and the camera on this drone is pretty amazing in the right hands. It should add some decent content, assuming I don't crash it or lose it somewhere.
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