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post #1 of 18 Old 06-28-2017, 10:12 PM Thread Starter
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Lightbulb Andes rider challenge... tips and tricks for long day in saddle

Hello gents, I have joined the andes rider challenge.
Endurance ride 900 km in 20 hours or less in Ecuador. I know that for some "iron butts" this 500 mile trek might seem mild but......


The trip goes from 11 masl (33ft) to 4400 masl (14,500 ft) with few straights and several tail of th dragon type curves, fog, the occasional landslide o broken road and crazy cagers.... this is southamerica after all

Sooooo... I expect to be at least 12-14 hours in the saddle and a month to prepare.... what do you suggest??

All tips greatly appreciated.
The link to the site is: http://www.andesriderchallenge.com In case you're curious


Thanks in advance
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post #2 of 18 Old 06-28-2017, 10:27 PM
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Ride 12-14 hours a day to practice!
When I rode big miles, I did it regularly. Of course, in the US with interstate highways, doing big miles at speed is easy. It's also easy to figure regular gas stops.
Run the route and see how it challenges you.
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That's the one thing I can't do....
on the weekends yes but everyday no can do...
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That's the one thing I can't do....
on the weekends yes but everyday no can do...

Know when to quit. Don't let your ego or whatever push you into a dangerous situation.

I remember towards the end of a 900 mile day I was tired, it was dark and really windy. Like so windy cars were backing off me because my bike was way leaned over. I was a couple of hours from home so pushed through it.

The sensible thing would have been to pull off the road, set up camp and got a fresh start in the morning.


My .02...

The temptation for you is going to be to tough it out but by the time you realize that fatigue is causing you to make mistakes it may be too late. It's a big ride you're planning might be better to work your way up to it.

Or could just go for it and hope for the best! That's what I would have done 20 years ago.
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When I think about your question, a couple of things come to mind;
I understand that you have practical limitations on your available time to train. But there are certain things you can anticipate and practice. Riding at night is one. Getting to your "stuff" during the ride with the least amount of hassle. Refueling quickly. Navigation. All those activities and others, when solved in advance, will ease the effort a long continuous ride takes.

At a more practical level, I start moving around on the bike and de-cramping from the time I hit 6th gear for the first time and never stop staying ahead of that condition. Have a good hydration system and use it even when you don't feel thirsty. If you would normally take a Tylenol after a long ride / take one when you start and again a few hours later. In short, stay ahead of your problems.

Lastly, as regards mental sharpness, I test frequently. I do simple math in my head. Often things like the miles to the next city and subtracting miles traveled from that last starting point. It is a solid test and because it is self administered - very hard to ignore. It also helps to consider your hours as 1/4 hour parts.
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I hope you are physically fit. My training for long rides are long bicycle training rides, up to 100 miles in the end. That's 7 hours on a bicycle. If I can do that I can ride 10+ hours on the motorcycle.

Especially given the big elevation changes watch for altitude sickness, unless you know that your not affected by it. Being fit I think is helpful for that as well.

Prepare the bike well and as already mentioned test under the conditions you will be in like dark, rain, cold, hot windy .... with all the gear you are planning on using.

Is your seat good for that duration? If not get a sit&fly cover (search e-bay). Cheap and amazingly effective. Reduces pressure points, ventilats your rear, you are not sitting in a puddle of water when it rains.

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I would want a better seat plus a bigger and better windscreen than stock if you still run stock equipment. Read or discuss windscreens only at https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl650a-2...-only-one.html

It's too late for a custom seat but there are aftermarket seats and options that can be put on top of the stock seat. Exercising to make your body more fit can help too but a month isn't enough time to make much difference. Make sure the bike is in good shape too. Note any areas of discomfort or unease with you and the bike in your ride preparation as those will get worse. Don't wear yourself out near ride time. Give yourself a week of ease before the ride after your next three weeks of preparation.

Carry layers for changes in temperature and make sure your rain gear works well.

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Lastly, as regards mental sharpness, I test frequently. I do simple math in my head. Often things like the miles to the next city and subtracting miles traveled from that last starting point. It is a solid test and because it is self administered - very hard to ignore. It also helps to consider your hours as 1/4 hour parts.

What?

I was told there was no math involved with motorcycles.

I might not have signed up if there was!
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Setup of the bike is important. You need to be able to stretch your legs out somehow, highway pegs, extended pegs etc. Also you need to be able to stand on pegs for long stretches if there is any gravel/dirt involved, it also works to stand up to stretch out your sore legs. Raise the bars up to make standing more comfortable.

A power rest does amazing things, If you feel your brain getting slow, eyes not as sharp etc, stop the bike someplace quiet, and just lay down beside it and close your eyes for 15 minutes. Concentrate on relaxing every part of your body. When you open your eyes next you will feel invigorated.

Also be sure to drink plenty of water and bring power bars or Jerky to eat every few hours. It is amazing how your body slows down without food inside. Stay away from greasy food, it will make you tired. Sugar will give you a buzz for 30 minutes, then you will crash.. I mean mentally.. Stay away from sugar. Hopefully you are not a huge coffee drinker as that addiction can cause drowsiness when the drugs wear off.

A throttle lock helps relieve wrist pain on throttle hand if there are any straight sections.

Be careful what underwear you have on, any creases will chafe after riding for many hours.

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Thanks for all the answers.
I have ridden through most of the course on previous rides, so I know altitude is not an issue and some of the driving conditions are known to me.
The bike will be checked and ready two weeks before.
One thing I thought off.. is to get a 20 -30 min nap and a massage midway through?? (could be arranged and probably cost $100).
I will try to get a seat cover; and honestly never thought of underwear... good pointer.

REgards,
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