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post #1 of 17 Old 08-23-2016, 09:29 PM Thread Starter
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Question Are V-Stroms sold in Canada the same as those sold in US?

I just moved from Vancouver to Los Angeles, I've been without a bike for a while, and I'm thinking of getting a used Wee (and with my budget, it'll almost certainly be 2011 or older, hence my posting here.) I've been looking at what's for sale here, at ADVRider.com, and on Craigslist. And on Craigslist, I've been looking both for what's available here in SoCal, but also looking back at BC Craigslist. And thanks to the low loonie (and the fact that I'm now being paid in US dollars), some of the bikes I see for sale on BC Craigslist seem like Really Good Deals.

The trick, though, is importing them. Me and my family actually did this move once before in 2009, and we had to "import" our Dodge Grand Caravan, which we'd bought in Canada. We had to get a letter from Chrysler Canada saying "Yes, this model is the same as the models sold in the US, so it meets all the EPA and DOT requirements." And I gather that to import a motorcycle, it'd be the same deal.

So, do V-Stroms sold in Canada meet the US requirements? Are there stickers or labels on Canadian-market bikes that show EPA and/or US DOT certification? Has anyone else checked into this before? I'd LOVE to buy a nice affordable ride in Canada, but not if it's going to be difficult/impossible to bring it back with me.
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post #2 of 17 Old 08-23-2016, 10:41 PM
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Speedometer has to be in miles per hour or dual mph /kph. California has more stringent emission standards. Otherwise should be the same.

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E-28 is the Canadian model.
E-33 is the California model.
E-3 is the 49 state model.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
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I think it's pretty straight forward but I don't the regs for California...If you buy privately you have no HST issue and AFAIK the speedo change is push a few buttons in the right order if it is a digital dash.

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He wants a Wee though - analog instruments.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 DL1000s. Vee2=2014-2016 DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 DL650s. Glee = 2012-2016 DL650s
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He wants a Wee though - analog instruments.
Does "raceratb" still have mph faceplates?

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Vee or V= DL1000 before 2014
Vee2 or V2 = DL1000 2015 to 2019
Vee3 or V3 = DL1050 2020 to?

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2006 DL650: 202,000 km 125,500 miles, Sold
2012 DL650 139,500+ km, 86,700+ miles. Sold
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E-28 is the Canadian model.
E-33 is the California model.
E-3 is the 49 state model.
My experience (with cars) is that it needs an explicit epa sticker to say it meets California emissions. I don't know how that relates to cars but I suspect Canadian bikes have not been shown to meet California emissions. (It would,me great to learn otherwise.)

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Vee or V= DL1000 before 2014
Vee2 or V2 = DL1000 2015 to 2019
Vee3 or V3 = DL1050 2020 to?

My Stroms:
2006 DL650: 202,000 km 125,500 miles, Sold
2012 DL650 139,500+ km, 86,700+ miles. Sold
2015 DL1000 New July 2015 205,000+ km, 127,000+ miles.

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Yup. Emission might be the only problem, but pretty big one tough. How does it work if you buy used US bike from another state and want to register it in California?
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Yup. Emission might be the only problem, but pretty big one tough. How does it work if you buy used US bike from another state and want to register it in California?

If the bike isn't California emissions equipped it has to have at least 7500 miles on it at the time of sale to be registered in Cal.

Why 7500 miles? Good question my guess is that it is a compromise between Cal and the EPA that allows used vehicles to be imported into Cal.

As far as buying a Canadian vehicle and trying to get it registered in Cal I wouldn't attempt it. Vehicles like that are classified "grey market" and won't get registered period. The VIN designates the intended country, the DMV will know right away it's not a US vehicle.

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A specific one I'm looking at is a 2006 with about 110,000 km/70,000 mi on the clock. (C$2700 ~= US$2100, with hard top and side cases and a few other nice farkles.) So it'd be fine for California's 7,500-mile thing. And if it's analog instruments, it'll certainly have both mph and km/h on the dial, even if the odometer is km only. (That certainly wasn't a problem with our minivan; dual-measure dial, km-only odometer, no worries.)

Even a Canadian VIN isn't a problem. It's only whether it meets EPA and DOT requirements. DOT I'm sure isn't a problem. EPA, though....

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E-28 is the Canadian model.
E-33 is the California model.
E-3 is the 49 state model.
Thanks for that info, greywolf! Is that something that can be deduced from the VIN? And is there anything online that would show the differences between the three?

(As well, some of the Wees I've seen for sale in Canada say "Bike originally from US, so odometer only in miles", so there's a chance the specific one I'm coveting might be the same.)
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