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post #1 of 20 Old 05-28-2016, 12:19 AM Thread Starter
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Tire irons to change front tire

This is something new for me. I have a Harbor Freight tire changer and have changed Motorcycle tires with it before, but the stiff rim tires are hard to work with since you need to be able to insert the rim of the tire into 3 brackets on the mount.

I was watching some youtube vids on changing a tire with Tire Irons, and the process looked easy, plus it would be good to know this if I ever needed to pull the tire off while on a trip someplace.

I ordered two 8 inch irons from aliexpress, they were very cheap and arrived quickly. I also ordered a 16 inch one from Amazon with the last of my XMas money from last year. I was glad to have this longer one.

Breaking the bead was the first challenge and I failed to do this using just the tire irons. The stock Bridgestone Battleaxe tire has a stiff sidewall and I didn't want to mar my nice rims using these tire irons. I ended up using the bead breaker on my Harbor Freight changer. That took 5 minutes.

Next up was getting the tire off. I put some protectors on the rim but they always seemed to be in the wrong position to do this. Its like I needed a few more of them, and in fact I have a few more coming from China, but that may be a while. I managed to get it off finally. The second edge was also hard to remove and I struggled with it a long while but managed it finally.

Putting the new tire on wasn't hard, but did take some work, but again went on OK. The spoons did leave some marks on the inside of the rims, it is kind of a violent process to work tires this way.

After I got the new tire on setting the bead was a snap (drumroll here, putish.. bang..). I installed dynabeads for balancing and that went OK.

In hindsight I think the Harbor Freight method is easier in a way since you use a long bar and spin it around a central core to get tire off/on, and I think it is less harsh on rims.

Next up, where to get a real professional tire changer that doesn't cost a thousand bucks. I want something that resembles a toaster, just drop wheel in one side and new tire in other slot, wait for it to ding, and take it out.
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I've been using these to change tires. beadpro bead breaker and tire levers.

http://www.motionpro.com/product/08-0519
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I have the Harbor Freight tire changer and also a good selection of irons. Unless you also have a really good bar to go with the changer machine, it takes about the same amount of effort. One thing that makes removal much easier, after breaking the bead from the rim, is to just take a razor knife/box cutter, dip the blade in lubricant (I use real tire lube, Ruglyde, but it doesn't matter because you're going to throw it away) and slice the tire in two around the center of the tread. Then you only have to work getting one bead at a time down into the wheel valley. One or two spoons under the bead and you can pull the tire right off without wrestling it. I've done that on the last three sets of tires I've changed and it really does save effort unless you have something like a No-Mar or No-Scuff bar or equivalent.

There are pics available on the net also for how to install plastic hooks on the tire machine in place of the metal hooks to keep from dinging up your rims.

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I was watching some youtube vids on changing a tire with Tire Irons, and the process looked easy, plus it would be good to know this if I ever needed to pull the tire off while on a trip someplace.

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In hindsight I think the Harbor Freight method is easier in a way since you use a long bar and spin it around a central core to get tire off/on, and I think it is less harsh on rims.

A key technique with tire irons is to take small bites. That way you don't have to use a lot of force. Always keep the opposite bread down also.

I've got the Harbor Freight changer with the Mojo blocks and lever. The Mojo stuff makes the changer much better. I also use a strap around one of the spokes to keep the wheel from turning. Piece of cake to charge a tire compared to irons.
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I have the HF changer with the No-Mar tire bar. Removal is easy, but mounting is a completely different story. I think I cuss less playing golf than I do mounting tires. In fact, I'm about to buy a good set of plastic spoons for mounting and use the HF stand for dismounting only.
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Horizons Unlimited has a DVD that is the best tire instruction, I have ever seen. The Motion Pro bead braker is a must have tool, makes what can be a difficult task, much easier.
Lube and small bites, is the ticket.


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You can use a 6" C-clamp with a small piece of plywood on the opposite side of the tire to break the bead effectively.
I used it to remove the stock tires on the '06 Wee last winter with no trouble at all.
I also use the 3 tire iron method with one longer than the 8" pair. As mentioned above, be sure to keep the opposite bead well in the middle of the rim to make it easier.
Dynabeads worked well for balancing but there's a bit of a trick to get them into the valve efficiently. Takes some practice.

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I've removed tires from the wheels using spoons, but I haven't put one back on yet; I've taken the easy route and let the shop do it. However, I have a new set of Shinko 705's sitting in my garage that I'm going to try and mount myself next week before a trip to Maine. All I have to set the bead is one of those 12V compressors they sell to inflate tires, so I guess it remains to be seen if that will do the trick. I've heard guys say they've set the bead with a hand bicycle pump, so I guess it's possible.

I've broken the beads using a Motion Pro Bead Popper. It doesn't seem like its working as you work your way around the tire, then suddenly the bead comes loose.
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I had no trouble setting the bead with my 120v pump, it is similar to my 12v unit. Bead set before it reached 30psi on this tire (TKC70). I installed a different tire on my old bike and the bead didn't set until it was over 40psi, but it did set eventually. Make sure to lube the edges, makes setting it easier.

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I've removed tires from the wheels using spoons, but I haven't put one back on yet; I've taken the easy route and let the shop do it. However, I have a new set of Shinko 705's sitting in my garage that I'm going to try and mount myself next week before a trip to Maine. All I have to set the bead is one of those 12V compressors they sell to inflate tires, so I guess it remains to be seen if that will do the trick. I've heard guys say they've set the bead with a hand bicycle pump, so I guess it's possible.

I've broken the beads using a Motion Pro Bead Popper. It doesn't seem like its working as you work your way around the tire, then suddenly the bead comes loose.
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I had no trouble setting the bead with my 120v pump, it is similar to my 12v unit. Bead set before it reached 30psi on this tire (TKC70). I installed a different tire on my old bike and the bead didn't set until it was over 40psi, but it did set eventually. Make sure to lube the edges, makes setting it easier.
Thanks BugMagnet, it's good to know it can be done. Hopefully my attempt will be as successful as yours.

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