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post #2651 of 2706 Old 08-19-2019, 02:15 PM
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Years ago I read a really thorough oil discussion from I think an aircraft lubrication engineer. It was on one of the big ducati forums, possibly linked from earlier in this thread or somewhere else. Their suggestion was to always go for the lowest viscosity oil that was within the manufacturers guidelines (unless you started to have issues). Keeping the viscosity low ensures you loose less to frictional losses and those oils are already specced to be within what ever it is the manufacturer has designed for. I think the suggestion was also to go for the most synthetic base stock you can afford, there was probably some suggestion as to which group was a minimum, but it was quite a while ago so I have forgotten (and the oil manufacturers have continued to innovate).
Well for whatever it is worth, I drained out the royal purple (how can you tell when it is dirty?) and K&N oil filter. Replaced it with a Wix and 5W40 T6

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Yes, I'm speaking about idle hammer and the 1000s are known for it. Suzuki seems to not want to do anything about it. Apparently it's harmless and doesn't actually get worse once it starts but it sounds awful and unrefined. Again, with the T6 15-40 it seems worse than ever. The T6 is the first "full synthetic" I've ran in it so that's the only non-scientific data I have to go by. I might dump it and try Valvoline 4T conventional before the season is up, which is sadly approaching fast in upper Michigan.

I also have the more expensive OEM Suzuki filter ( more expensive when compared to WIX) so I'm curious to see if the that has an effect in conjunction with conventional oil. As I said, after doing reading on BITOG like many of us probably have, and my experience with using a Ford FL-910s oil filter on my Toyota 4Runner, I believe an oil filter's design can have an affect on how an engine sounds our perhaps runnability to a point. Mainly considering the design of the anti-drain back valve and pressures it's designed to maintain during operation. Many have IH after the first 600 mile oil change and I'm sure most go with a cheaper oil filter alternative to OEM such as WIX, NAPA, etc. I'm simply going to experiment with a 10-40 oil and OEM filter to see what happens. I can afford the $6 difference in filter's and I'm more foolish with money in other ways.


I looked up the data on the bypass valve on the Suzuki filter vs the Wix and they were the same not sure about the anti-drain back valve though. If idle hammer bothers you why not get the Werks Idle Hammer Tamer? https://www.werksparts.com/idle-hammer-tamer.html


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The Rotella T4 worked well for me. Tried it for the first time on the last oil change and the shifting is still smooth with about 3500 miles on the oil.

I see Costco has the 15w/40 Rotella T4 at $29.99 for a pack of 3 one-gallon jugs through the end of the month. Im not sure Iíll find it cheaper than $10 per gallon. I think Iíll pick up a 3 pack this weekend. Should last me a while..
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Hi, I was just wondering if castrol actevo 10w 40 is ok to run in a 2015 650. thanks
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Did 3800 miles here in the Arizona desert along with some riding to the cool high country. Shell Rotella 5W-40 seem to do quit well. Broke down and spent money for Mobile 1 4T 10W-40. Will take that closer to 5000 miles
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Did 3800 miles here in the Arizona desert along with some riding to the cool high country. Shell Rotella 5W-40 seem to do quit well. Broke down and spent money for Mobile 1 4T 10W-40. Will take that closer to 5000 miles
Is that old or new Rotella T6? CK4 or SN rated? Looks good and didn't lose too much viscosity.

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Hi, I was just wondering if castrol actevo 10w 40 is ok to run in a 2015 650. thanks
If its' got "JASO MA" or JASO MA/MA2" on the bottle, it's good to go.

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Is that old or new Rotella T6? CK4 or SN rated? Looks good and didn't lose too much viscosity.
It was the CK-4. I had to go look. I still have a quart in the gallon jug.
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Is that old or new Rotella T6? CK4 or SN rated? Looks good and didn't lose too much viscosity.
It was the CK-4. I had to go look. I still have a quart in the gallon jug.
Good to hear. I was seeing some iffy reports on the new formula on BITOG. Yours looks good.

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