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post #2581 of 2632 Old 06-04-2019, 09:23 AM
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I use 10W40 Amsoil Full Syn Metric Motorcycle oil. It doesn't shear in my bike.
Or that! If you want to spend the money Amsoil's bike oil is excellent, as is Redline's, when it comes to shearing.

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All oils shear.

I have been running liqui-Moly in the Beemer the last three oil changes. Full synthetic German made Ester based oil. Shifts worse by 4000 miles. Not as good at shifting late in the oils life as the T-6 I used to run.

There is a difference in oils. But you really have to try them in YOUR bike with your riding style to confirm any difference. If you change your oil at 3000 miles, I honestly don't think there is any real reason to buy anything but cheaper oils. History will back that up.

I have 7,143 miles on the Liqui-Moly in the Beemer now. Going to get it hot and change it right away. Send it off for a UOA. Meanwhile I am going to go to Mobil 1 4T 10-40. Bike is supposed to have 5-40 but that isn't common. 10-40 will be fine and a good test. It could actually be better at shear as miles pile up. Warranty is out, I am free to experiment!

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"Rotella T6 is NOT the same as it was"

Always read the label. The jugs of Rotella i get say JASO on them. i understand that to mean motorcycle friendly?
It's always handy to read entries that keep one up to date on products.
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JASO means it is friendly to certain friction components. Not just a motorcycle rating at all.

Look on the bottle and see if you can find ANY API rating. API is the gasoline engine certification. Most oils are in the SH- SM- SN category now. Diesel oils use a different marking like C4. This change happened about a year or so ago. Call Shell and they will tell you it is no longer certified for gasoline engine use. At least the T-6 is not and that is what I was using. For instance the older T-6 said nothing about JASO on the container. But call Shell, or look up their product data sheets online, and the JASO rating was listed.

Not telling anyone they cannot use Rotella T-6 in their bike. But instead pointing out that it is no longer certified by Shell for use in a gasoline engine. There were changes made in the formulation, and something isn't compatible like it was before.

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Probably a good time to mention, and hope the O/P reads it, WERA688 and his 423k miles K3 DL1000. Used auto oil and Valvoline filter, I recall?

https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl1000-...0-writeup.html
The the front on the oil container is marketing with buzzwords like "motorcycle, diesel, Asian 4 cyl, big twin, air cooled" to make folks pay more for what the bottom like is "engine oil". The back of the container where the API/ASE and/or other standards/specification are listed are what are important. Not the eye candy the front.

Engine oils in split or straight weight with SAE 30 in it will not be energy conserving AKA circle "E".
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All oils shear.

I have been running liqui-Moly in the Beemer the last three oil changes. Full synthetic German made Ester based oil. Shifts worse by 4000 miles. Not as good at shifting late in the oils life as the T-6 I used to run.

There is a difference in oils. But you really have to try them in YOUR bike with your riding style to confirm any difference. If you change your oil at 3000 miles, I honestly don't think there is any real reason to buy anything but cheaper oils. History will back that up.

I have 7,143 miles on the Liqui-Moly in the Beemer now. Going to get it hot and change it right away. Send it off for a UOA. Meanwhile I am going to go to Mobil 1 4T 10-40. Bike is supposed to have 5-40 but that isn't common. 10-40 will be fine and a good test. It could actually be better at shear as miles pile up. Warranty is out, I am free to experiment!
I use LiquiMoly 10W-60 in my Hexhead R1200GS shifts the same no matter how many miles the engine oil has on it
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I use LiquiMoly 10W-60 in my Hexhead R1200GS shifts the same no matter how many miles the engine oil has on it
That's because it never drops below a thick 40 weight after shearing

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Personally I would never run rotella in my bike. Heard a few bad stories ranging from quickly sheering notchy shifting all the way to a R1 that seized on the stuff..... coincidence? maybe but I dont feel warm and fuzzy about it.

so probably a good idea to stay conventional for the first couple oil changes before switching to syn?
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Personally I would never run rotella in my bike. Heard a few bad stories ranging from quickly sheering notchy shifting all the way to a R1 that seized on the stuff..... coincidence? maybe but I dont feel warm and fuzzy about it.

so probably a good idea to stay conventional for the first couple oil changes before switching to syn?
Lots of people very happy with Rotella. I have over 500,00 km/ 300,00 miles of riding on my three Stroms running the stuff.

There is no reason in the world to not run synthetic from day one on a brand new engine if you feel like running it.

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Clean,

Internet lore and fact are way different things.

Just like we all heard the story about a friends friends, friend who went out to eat and started feeling ill. Went to the hospital and after testing the doctors found urine or feces in their stomach. Then when the doctor asks what they ate recently they remember that since they felt ill they got their food packed in a doggy bag. The food was tested and guess what was found? When the question the restaurant they found out the waiter or cook had been doing this to all the food................
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