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post #2541 of 2544 Old 04-09-2019, 08:09 PM
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Those photos-
Lucas, "Meets or exceeds..."
Castrol #1, "Exceeds industry specifications..."
Castrol #2, "Exceeds industry specifications..."
Mobil 1, "Meets or exceeds requirements of..."

And not a single JASO MA certification mark among them. So, it is just their unsubstantiated claim that these products "meet or exceed" those standards. And again, since API no longer certifies motorcycle oils, and that the former API motorcycle standards are now obsolete, you'll likely not see an API donut on a dedicated motorcycle oil. The JASO mark is about all we can hope for.

Keep in mind the corporate lawyers waiting in the wings at the motorcycle manufacturers just waiting to say that your oil related property loss was due to using non-certified oil. It could happen, never say never.

I have seen dedicated JASO certified motorcycle oils on the shelves of good quality MC dealers and parts/accessory shops. Some of those oils tend to be very expensive as well.

I just recently got rid of a nearly empty bottle of Yamalube 20/50 I used with my old FJR, and I'm quite certain it wore the Jaso MA mark. I'd bet the 3rd party suppliers filling the Big 4 MC brand oil bottles are putting JASO certified oil in those bottles, since the MC manufacturers tell us to use JASO oil in their engines.

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Yet MANY for years and years have been running 40 weight car oil in their bikes with no issues......go figure. I say poo poo on the "official" ratings and standards, if it works it works.
The reason behind this is 40w and higher will NOT have friction modifiers. These were added for fuel economy in 30w and below and can/will cause clutch slippage in some wet clutches.

My mantra is if 40w and higher probably OK. I only use Mobil 1 Motorcycle Synthetics. If Yamaha fights a claim I will let them and Mobil 1 sort it out.

FYI, MA was superceded by MA 2 due to catalytic converters. If your bike has a CAT, I would use MA 2 oils.

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I use Rotella exclusively in my Yanmar 4LHA-STP turbo diesel in a Shamrock offshore Tuna and Marlin hunting machine. It sucks up the normal diesel contaminants. Why the truckers swear by it.
Unless Rotella has broken out of their core market it is diesel oil supremo. And nothing else.
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Those photos-
Lucas, "Meets or exceeds..."
Castrol #1, "Exceeds industry specifications..."
Castrol #2, "Exceeds industry specifications..."
Mobil 1, "Meets or exceeds requirements of..."

And not a single JASO MA certification mark among them. So, it is just their unsubstantiated claim that these products "meet or exceed" those standards. And again, since API no longer certifies motorcycle oils, and that the former API motorcycle standards are now obsolete, you'll likely not see an API donut on a dedicated motorcycle oil. The JASO mark is about all we can hope for.

Keep in mind the corporate lawyers waiting in the wings at the motorcycle manufacturers just waiting to say that your oil related property loss was due to using non-certified oil. It could happen, never say never.

I have seen dedicated JASO certified motorcycle oils on the shelves of good quality MC dealers and parts/accessory shops. Some of those oils tend to be very expensive as well.

I just recently got rid of a nearly empty bottle of Yamalube 20/50 I used with my old FJR, and I'm quite certain it wore the Jaso MA mark. I'd bet the 3rd party suppliers filling the Big 4 MC brand oil bottles are putting JASO certified oil in those bottles, since the MC manufacturers tell us to use JASO oil in their engines.

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