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post #1 of 13 Old 05-14-2008, 12:40 AM Thread Starter
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Let's be serious for a moment...

Given last years massacre of motorcyclists last riding season and as this years riding season begins, let's take a moment to realize that this is a dangerous hobby.

With gas prices as they are, we know there will be more two wheelers on the road. Many are getting back into riding after long absences. I hope riders realize that it's not just you that's affected if something goes wrong in pursuing this beloved hobby of ours. This video is a graphic reminder of what can happen and who gets hurt.


Last year I managed two major motorcycle involved accidents, my own and one involving a BMW striking a cage that turned in front of them killing the BMW's passenger.

As the video suggests, do what you can to reduce the risks. Stay alert, head on a swivel, wear the gear.

Be careful, be safe…ride smart!

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post #2 of 13 Old 05-14-2008, 02:02 AM
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Thanks for posting that video.

I've been back riding for about 6 months and 2,500 miles, I'm 40. Today I had to do my first quick maneuver to keep from being side swiped. All worked out well and I was happy to see that I have memorized my reactions.

I have a young son and a wife I adore. Love riding again, took the motorcycle safety course, ride w/ a hi vis jacket, don't drink and ride, don't ride in the rain, don't even like going over 75mph and of course, wear a helmet.

Still afraid of being life threateningly injured, wondering if riding is worth the risk. Dream about riding to Alaska. Somehow think I'm "Mr. Safety" and bad thinks will not happen to me. Hear that most people have been down, some life's changed, some ended.

What to do? Can't be afraid to live my life. Practice the unexpected. Hug my family and second guess my love of riding.

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Originally Posted by sanford1234 View Post
What to do? Can't be afraid to live my life.
Quoted for Truth.

I could live my life without taking any risks and maximize my potential for living to a hundred, but I wouldn't want to look back at my life and have so many regrets for exciting things I missed out on.

Taking all prudent precautions and keeping a level head is a no-brainer though. Racing stays on the track. Safety gear is a must. Be aware of my surroundings. Ensure my equipment is well maintained. And if the weather is crummy or theres heavy traffic, just take the cage out. Same thing with the plane... if its not nice out, it stays in the hanger and no need to go crazy to have fun and feel free.

I started riding when I was 15 and have always had at least one bike, but hadn't ridden in three years now, so I'm retaking the motorcycle safety course!
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post #4 of 13 Old 05-14-2008, 03:08 AM
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A couple weeks ago I was browsing the web while looking at V-Strom videos and started watching motorcycle accident videos on YouTube, after seeing them I also showed the videos to my girlfriend who also rides.

Quite sobering, amazing the damage people can do to themselves, or have another person on the road do to them. The one thing that sticks out in my mind is that a large percentage of the accident videos that were caught on tape happened either while people were racing (as would be expected) or at Intersections. Definitely made me ride a little safer and be a little more cautious around intersections.
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After developing riding skills (braking, throttle control, balance) , perhaps the next most important task is to expand situational awareness, identifying probable threats and taking corrective action. Too many cagers drive in a fog, perhaps keeping track of the person ahead of them, but not paying particular attention to the road (or what's on it), who's next to them and behind them, who is approaching on possible collision courses at an intersection, or what might be lurking around a corner or over the brow of a hill. Considering the minimal protection, even with full gear, a rider needs to see and avoid. My personal mindset is that every driver out there is trying to kill me, and I plan so it is difficult for them to do so. Almost never use the horn, since that would assume that once they know I'm there they'll do the right thing (which is rarely the case). Locally the worst habit of cagers is following too close. On a bike, that will almost certainly lead to a fall when debris on the road will be unexpectedly presented to you in those few milliseconds between the time the car in front of you passes over it and the time your front wheel hits it. Use a motorcycle's capabilities to your advantage. When approaching an intersection with opposing left-turning drivers, stay to the right of your lane to improve visibility, and give a better chance to avoid the dumb oncoming driver. If in front at a signal, accelerate smartly to pull away from the pod. Don't ride next to a cage, or in a cage's blind spot if at all possible, to keep your options open.

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There is a "relative" danger riding a motorcycle....

Yes it is more dangerous than being on the road in a cage. This is true. The video does however echo a very real scenario. A new rider with way to much bike and riding irresponsibly. He made a mistake. Stay aware, ride smart, don't ride to the bar, be realistic about your skills, practice, etc...However don't forget that this is a fun and practical form of transportation. I did like that the video had motorcycle officers on it...That was cool...You mean that even a police officer will ride a motorcycle? they can't be all that bad..and aren't illegal yet!
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My basic safety philosphy is this: I assume every single car on the road can't see me.

Amazing how defensively you ride when you operate under that assumption.

It also helps to assume every parked car has a person in it who's either going to through open his door without looking or pull out into traffic. If you assume the worst could happen at anytime, then you'll be prepared to avoid it.
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Originally Posted by dante662 View Post
My basic safety philosphy is this: I assume every single car on the road can't see me.

Amazing how defensively you ride when you operate under that assumption.

I disagree with this whole thread, motorcycling is no more dangerous than you make it

if cars can't see you, then your probably riding where they can't see you

my philosophy is ride visibly and agressively, none of this passive defensive crap, cars will take advantage and ignor you like your not there and you'll be dead before you know it

by riding agressively I don't mean fast or stupid or take chances

ride like you own your lane and space both in front of you and behind, don't let cagers get away with encroaching on your space, make yourself visible

oh ya, one more thing to the original poster

beginning of the season? where you been, it's almost half over

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Yes, the massacre has been going on in the Bay Area for several weeks now. And today -- which is going to be the first really hot day of the year -- I had to contend with several obvious fair-weather riders during my commute. Some fat-ass guy and his fat-ass passenger, riding a fat-ass vintage Connie, was lane-splitting between lanes 2 and 3, thus shoving all the cars from lane 2 right into my path between lanes 1 and 2.

And they're taking up all the good parking spaces, too. I can't wait for winter!
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Since we are on the topic of situational awareness. Are there any good DVDs out there that discuss this issue? Aside from taking a MSF course, what else can be done to help with threat avoidance?

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