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post #1 of 31 Old 05-12-2008, 02:44 PM Thread Starter
 
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I've commited the ultimate sin!

30,000 miles on the street (ish) and it finally happened....I went down!

What makes it the ultimate sin is that the wife was on the back!

Everyones fine (except my pride), thanks for asking.

So heres what happened....We were out for a nice sunday ride on a twisty I had never been on before. I over-cooked a corner, jumped on the brakes and ass end tried to pass me. I reeled that back in again, but was still going a bit too fast for the up-coming corner...so on come the brakes again. Rear end tries to pass me one more time. This doesn't really concern me, as I have lots of off road miles as well. I get the bike hauled down to a speed I can take the corner at and release the brakes to get bike to track...and snap, high side and we're birds!

Anyway, a few bumps and bruises but we got up and even continued our ride.

Bike, pegs scratched, Givi bar very scratrched and bent into plastic, Givi top box survived although it has some good scratches and there was dirt inside. Front plastic (around the headlights) has a decent scratch in it, front fender has small scratch, handguards, mirror, and blinker pretty much toast.

All things considered I could not have gotten out of that one easier. Oh, I landed on my shoulder which hurts, but I am convinced is much better than it could have been due to TourMaster transition 2 riding jacket.

So why did it happen...short answer, riding too fast. Long answer, these bikes are very top heavy and when we add a passenger they get worse. I was not prepared for the difference in sliding characteristics from other bikes I have owned. Not that I was trying to slide, I wasn't...but when it happened I thought I could pull it out. Guess not. Anyway, be careful out there guys. I have a LOT of miles under my belt. I have commuted for years on a bike, I have done the sport bike thing, I ride off road (also a lot)...and it still happened. All I am trying to say is that you are NOT indestructible. It is easy for me to look back and say it was my fault because I was riding to fast (I was), but who among us can really say they have never gone a bit faster than they should?

One last thing, wife had a smile on her face later (and I didn't get catch any %^*%*), gotta love that girl!
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One thing I've learned on the Wee:

Lean More.

It hasn't run out of grip for me yet and all other things considered I'd rather be closer to lowsiding.

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Glad your both okay,the bike is very top heavy and will be the main reason I will trade it in,that and the high seat.

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Glad you didn't pull a christopher reeve on us! I haven't ridden w/ a passenger and don't really plan to. I would feel awful if they croaked and I lived. I was in my truck a few years ago hauling a trailer, and I saw a custom harleydude speeding and weaving through traffic; tailgating. About a half mile after he'd passed me he hit an 80's cadillac seville. He was yelling @ the caddy owner, his harleymama was sitting on a curb; totally dazed.

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Good reminder SSAINT we are not imortal glade to hear your misses is ok . Do you now think of anything you could have done better ? It's always good to learn from someone else's mistake.One thing to do is check the tire pressures it's funny but an accident investigation mate has told me MANY tires are actually way more than 10% underinflated.Do you has ABS on your bike or would you now like on your next road bike, I do mean to sound funny by this but many people think afterwards ABS may have saved them .

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Glad to hear you and your wife are ok. And you are right, it can happen to anyone at any time.

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I'm glad everyone is OK. My wife used to ride with me about 15 years ago but hasn't in recent years. She says she's getting too old to go flying thought the air and land in the road. Reading this thread is just another reminder that you cannot be too careful.
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Do you now think of anything you could have done better ? It's always good to learn from someone else's mistake.One thing to do is check the tire pressures it's funny but an accident investigation mate has told me MANY tires are actually way more than 10% underinflated.Do you has ABS on your bike or would you now like on your next road bike, I do mean to sound funny by this but many people think afterwards ABS may have saved them .
Done differently, well...I would have slowed down. During the skid I guess I never would have used the back break the second time it slid out. I probably could have made the corner if I hadn't started the second slide. As someone posted, these things turn, plus low siding is better!

What else would I have done, as you mentioned....ABS. I actually considered that before I bough the bike. I don't ride in the rain too much so I thought I didn't need it. Now I wish I had the thing.

Thanks for all the support guys. I haven't been here long but it is amazing how much info I pull off this board. What to buy, where to buy it, how to fix it, is it normal, etc. Invaluable resource.
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Glad your both okay,the bike is very top heavy and will be the main reason I will trade it in,that and the high seat.
Just went to a racing course and they very, very specifically cautioned us against releasing the rear brake in this circumstance, "Or you'll high-side." And a Ducati 900ss isn't high or top heavy.

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Sorry to hear that you went down. Glad to hear that you're ok. Sounds like the bike is fixable and you walked away... can't get much better than that.

And as for the post regarding brakes ... yep, if you release a locked rear it will MOST LIKELY cause a high-side. Seen it happen. If it locks, ride it locked until you stop or low-side (usually preferable to a high-side).

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