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Question Anyone Regret Changing Springs?

I have a great deal of farkles, as most of us do. I have been sceptical of nearly all of them before I personally tested them though, and sometimes a farkle can be disappointing but we are hesitant to admit it. Radiator guard, I'm looking in your direction. If we admitted it, our hobby of spending$ left and right would be less justified, and we can't let that happen! Anyway, I wonder if anyone has put springs in just to discover the labor time and $ vs. Actual performance WASN'T worth it. I haven't ridden many bikes, but other than the "dive" when I brake spastically it seems ok.

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I have a great deal of farkles, as most of us do. I have been sceptical of nearly all of them before I personally tested them though, and sometimes a farkle can be disappointing but we are hesitant to admit it. Radiator guard, I'm looking in your direction. If we admitted it, our hobby of spending$ left and right would be less justified, and we can't let that happen! Anyway, I wonder if anyone has put springs in just to discover the labor time and $ vs. Actual performance WASN'T worth it. I haven't ridden many bikes, but other than the "dive" when I brake spastically it seems ok.
The Dive is a result of the fact you have "Long Travel" forks. You would not want springs so stiff you eliminate the dive, by doing so you would eliminate the travel in the forks.

Suspension upgrades are most noticeable on under-sprung machines that are subjected to terrain that works the suspension. Get on a Dirt bike that is not set for your weight and you'll immediately know what I am talking about.

FOR ME: I find the stock suspension adequate for my type of riding: Sport Touring: one and two-up with full bags.

If I was working the bike and running through the full length of the travel and hitting the stops, I'd upgrade.
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my stock springs are fine, and i'm 240 lbs. after a few years they tend to sack out. when that happens i'll prolly go with something a little stiffer.
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I have a great deal of farkles, as most of us do. I have been sceptical of nearly all of them before I personally tested them though, and sometimes a farkle can be disappointing but we are hesitant to admit it. Radiator guard, I'm looking in your direction. If we admitted it, our hobby of spending$ left and right would be less justified, and we can't let that happen! Anyway, I wonder if anyone has put springs in just to discover the labor time and $ vs. Actual performance WASN'T worth it. I haven't ridden many bikes, but other than the "dive" when I brake spastically it seems ok.
We've sold hundreds of set of V-Strom springs, one (maybe 2, but I think just one) customer has asked for a refund.
I really remember the one because it was just a messed up transaction from start to finish, worst customer service we've given anyone.

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serious question

Although I am fine w/ the shocks as they are, I would be interested in someone describing the main issue w/ the shocks that they had that made them drop the time and $ on the swap. I would like to analyze your observations as compared to mine. Also, I have a 2007dl650.

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I have a great deal of farkles, as most of us do. I have been sceptical of nearly all of them before I personally tested them though, and sometimes a farkle can be disappointing but we are hesitant to admit it. Radiator guard, I'm looking in your direction. If we admitted it, our hobby of spending$ left and right would be less justified, and we can't let that happen! Anyway, I wonder if anyone has put springs in just to discover the labor time and $ vs. Actual performance WASN'T worth it. I haven't ridden many bikes, but other than the "dive" when I brake spastically it seems ok.
I have lots of farkles that may not have been worth it, and I will always post if that is the case. I am fortunate that all the actual farkles I have put on the Strom have been good. Tires are the only tests I have done where I have mixed feelings. Like the Conti Road Attack tires, I hated them. Made the bike feel like a boat, hard to turn and made me loose lots of confidence on it.

I dont mind posting when a farkle goes wrong, I would hope everyone else would do the same.

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Although I am fine w/ the shocks as they are, I would be interested in someone describing the main issue w/ the shocks that they had that made them drop the time and $ on the swap. I would like to analyze your observations as compared to mine. Also, I have a 2007dl650.
I was in need of a rear shock. Mine is blown, and the bike is bottoming out at every dip I hit. I gave a ride to my bud the other day when he left his new Bandit on park mode. The bike felt like it was pointing to the sky and he is only 160lbs!!!! That is the main reason I went with a new Elka rear, doing the front is just icing on the cake

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I have a great deal of farkles, as most of us do. I have been sceptical of nearly all of them before I personally tested them though, and sometimes a farkle can be disappointing but we are hesitant to admit it. Radiator guard, I'm looking in your direction. If we admitted it, our hobby of spending$ left and right would be less justified, and we can't let that happen! Anyway, I wonder if anyone has put springs in just to discover the labor time and $ vs. Actual performance WASN'T worth it. I haven't ridden many bikes, but other than the "dive" when I brake spastically it seems ok.
Changing out my OEM springs with Sonic .95's has been the single most important addition to my v-strom. The improvement in handling and safety more than justify the $90.00 it cost to do it. I could go back to stock with the windshield, seat and handlebars and maybe lose only a little comfort. The new springs have to stay.

I don't know if anyone else who made the switch would feel that strongly about it but for me it was like getting a brand new bike for less than a Franklin. If you are happy with your ride then enjoy and spend the money on gas, oil, and tires.

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I swapped out my rear shock and front springs for a wilbers kit. I am loaded down at 205 lbs, perhaps 220lb dressed, along with HT pannies and the usual farkles and protection plates and bars.
The rear shock has a remote adjustable resvoir which helps on the fly. I have had the set up since late fall of 06. I did the rear for touring, so its set up for 2 up along with a weeks worth of gear, tent, rain gear, and such.
I did the front because I got tied of the clunk up front, and the unusual amount of dive under extreme braking.
Tractability has increased in tight woods and steep dirt grades, front dive is all but gone, but still just enough to give you some sense of progressive windings and softness up top, just not nearly as pronounced as stock. I have it dialed in now and broken in, so I do not get any wollowing like I used to when I was loaded down at speed. Unloaded, I can dive into hard turns under braking, point it and go.
Overall, I would say it really depends on your style of riding, bone stock, back and forth from work, I would have kept it stock. Off road, long hauls, loaded down and 2 up over uneven pavement and dirt roads, I would say it may be worth the cost. I think the front end at the very least is worth the money for upgrades...springs and oil. Its the cheaper of the two, and IMHO, the worst of the two ends form the showroom. Just take your time, look at all your options, and get the right springs for yur style of riding, believe me, you will not regret it.
Typically, the spring dealer should ask you some very specific questions, such as:
1: Your weight
2: Bike weight
3: type of riding, ie..Sport, touring, adventure, high speed, cruising.
4: Do you ride 2 up? IF so how often, 20% 50% or 80% of the time?
You get the picture, after this he will suggest the spring rate, then you can fine tune it after break in by varing oil weights and levels.

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It's a hundred dollars.

I'll wait till i've had ridden my upgrade a few more miles, but so far I'm very happy.

I guess I'm stumped that we are discussing a $100 upgrade. It's probably the cheapest upgrade possible. I mean I put $150 in a center stand, and other than a little convienence it's a hunk of steel I carry around.

I mean when I rode Harley's a new set of grips cost more than $100.
I just put $400 in my front end (tires, brakes, fork brace, bearings, springs).

What a deal!

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Don't be shocked that questions are being raised about spending/wasting $ if I started the thread, I'm cheap and not trusting. Scarlott harlot, you didn't specify what feelings your suspension had that you hated that made you change it.

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