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post #1 of 22 Old 04-25-2008, 11:43 AM Thread Starter
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Cornering tips needed

My background is that I've ridden dirt bikes pretty much from the time I was a teenager. You get pretty used to the feel of sliding around in corners riding off road. The technique was to lay the bike over but keep your weight over center so as you slide the bike you stay balanced. I don't know if that's a great description but you dirt guys know what I mean.

The pavement is so different to me. I find myself cornering on occasion at speeds below 30 mph using the same techniques. Not sure this is the right way to corner, I was following a sport bike one day and he was using the slide your ass off seat technique. I'm not going to do that!

I'm trying to get rid of the 1/2" chicken strip on the rear tire. Looking for some helpful cornering tips.




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post #2 of 22 Old 04-25-2008, 11:46 AM
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There's no point in leaning your bike further than necessary, while keeping your body upright, in order to scrub the last bit of the tires - you're unlikely to impress anyone. For normal street riding, I'd say keep your body basically centered on the street, or, as I do, you might find it useful to lean to the inside a little. Eventually, if you have enough corners available to practice on, you may start leaning far enough to scrub the whole tire and drag stuff. If that's what you're really after...
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I wouldn't worry about the chicken strips. Just get out there and ride! The more comfortable you get with the bike, the better you'll feel.

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A fun way to get tips is Killboy.com. There are hundreds and hundreds of pictures of motorcyclists riding The Dragon, and lots of commentary on techniques--good and bad.

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I wouldn't worry about the chicken strips. Just get out there and ride! The more comfortable you get with the bike, the better you'll feel.
Totally agree with you, not worried at all about the chicken strip. It's just an indicator of my lean angle. Those next couple degrees of lean angle seem uncomfortable.



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Totally agree with you, not worried at all about the chicken strip. It's just an indicator of my lean angle. Those next couple degrees of lean angle seem uncomfortable.

You'll get used to it. Take an MSF Intermediate or Experienced Rider Class for some street-riding education, and get on a low-traffic twisty road and practice.

But the long and short of it is... do not move your weight to the outside of the bike like you would when riding on dirt; instead move your weight to the inside. You don't need to go all road-racer-style and hang off, just sit comfortably on the bike, look through the turn, and let your shoulders/upper body naturally follow your head. This will bring them slightly to the inside without any real effort or thought.

And don't forget to countersteer.

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My recommendation would be to take an MSF course to polish up your on road skills.
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I know you will get a lot of suggestions but I think you already know how to corner properly. My suggestions below assume a dry roads with no dirt or other things to worry about.

It really comes down to just sitting on the bike as you normally would when travelling in a straight line. As the bike leans into a corner just sit on the bike normally and stay with the bike. Whatever amount it is leaning just do the same and it will feel natural to you very quickly. You don't have to do anything beyond that for any normal riding. As you get used to the sensation you can gradually go faster into the corners and you will find both you and the bike lean a bit more. You should look ahead into the corner at where you are going and just ride the bike. Don't be concerned with sliding off the seat, or using any better tires, or anything else; at least at this point of things.

(If you don't know what countersteering is about you might want to ask about that as that is what initiates the turn.)


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I am in the exact position as you. Lots of dirt experience and just learning the street. The biggest thing I learned in the Team Oregon course and continue to practice is to look through the turn. Lean becomes instinct to take you to where you are looking. This one tip has helped riding motos, my bikes and driving. Maybe we can ride together soon and pretend like we are practicing. I may be out your way this weekend.
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If there's a track nearby, maybe enroll in a track school? (It's something I've always wanted to try, but there aren't any tracks where I live. :sad1 You'll have a coach follow you around in a closed, controlled environment and the bike control skills you learn will make you a better street rider.

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