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post #1 of 34 Old 08-26-2014, 06:24 PM Thread Starter
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Trailer In A Bag guy died. Any alternative? Need help.

Well, the Trailer In A Bag guy died a couple of months ago in some sort of accident, and he left no successor for his patent.


The TIB was the perfect answer for me. I'm in a cargo van. I get to my destination, remove the two axle pins, remove two axles/wheels, and throw the rail (left fully assembled) and the two axles/wheels in the back of the van. Done.


Anyone know of a similar alternative? Something that a single person could easily throw into the back of a cargo van when not in use?

I have looked at the Stinger, but no way am I lifting that thing by myself.

Can't find any used TIB for sale in my area either. One on eBay, but it's local only.

Thanks in advance for any help.


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It has been turned over to the state, and assumed that maybe years, upon years from now (probably a day before the actual patent run out) maybe someone will be able to begin production again.


That's a shame. If you die and have absolutely no heirs, then all of your intellectual property (mainly patents) should be public domain.
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Never heard of a TIB...how about the Harbor Freight folding trailer?
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Stinger may work

Stinger may work, just unbolt the two "hinges" to reduce the lifted weight
(I have a Stinger MC trailer), you could also take the wheels off the hubs if you had to.

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Haven't seen the thing, but I don't think it's illegal to make your own version (or have one made for you by a fabricator). Sounds like it's just wheels, rails, hitch parts and lights - probably could put one together with one trip to Tractor Supply.
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Ok, looked it up.

Yeah, make one, or find someone to make you one. There's nothing to that.
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Well, the Trailer In A Bag guy died a couple of months ago in some sort of accident, and he left no successor for his patent.


The TIB was the perfect answer for me. I'm in a cargo van. I get to my destination, remove the two axle pins, remove two axles/wheels, and throw the rail (left fully assembled) and the two axles/wheels in the back of the van. Done.


Anyone know of a similar alternative? Something that a single person could easily throw into the back of a cargo van when not in use?

I have looked at the Stinger, but no way am I lifting that thing by myself.

Can't find any used TIB for sale in my area either. One on eBay, but it's local only.

Thanks in advance for any help.


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It has been turned over to the state, and assumed that maybe years, upon years from now (probably a day before the actual patent run out) maybe someone will be able to begin production again.


That's a shame. If you die and have absolutely no heirs, then all of your intellectual property (mainly patents) should be public domain.
Not that it helps you at the moment, but patents only matter if someone is interested in enforcing them. Pretty sure someone could do direct knockoffs without an issue.

(Caveat!!! I'm an NOT in favor of stealing people's designs. In general it's a very slimey thing to do. No different than reaching into their pocket and stealing their wallet. But this seems to be a special case, with no heirs and no one that owner of the patent has willed the IP to. I don't see much of a moral issue here.)

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Stinger may work, just unbolt the two "hinges" to reduce the lifted weight
(I have a Stinger MC trailer), you could also take the wheels off the hubs if you had to.
I am very interested in this. Called some dealers today about breaking it down, and none had any information.

What hinges? What part would come off and how time consuming would it be to remove them?

Any help on breaking this thing down will help me a lot.

I am thinking I could actually just throw a jack underneath it to get it to van floorboard height, but trying to get it to fit in a small van or SUV might be challenging.

I am seeing measurements of 48" and 52" on folded width. Going to call tomorrow and try to get conformation.

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Not that it helps you at the moment, but patents only matter if someone is interested in enforcing them. Pretty sure someone could do direct knockoffs without an issue.

(Caveat!!! I'm an NOT in favor of stealing people's designs. In general it's a very slimey thing to do. No different than reaching into their pocket and stealing their wallet. But this seems to be a special case, with no heirs and no one that owner of the patent has willed the IP to. I don't see much of a moral issue here.)

I didn't even think of that. So very true.

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I ditched the single bike trailer and built my own hitch hauler:






I put reflectors and led lights on it. Any class 3 hitch can handle 500+ lbs easy.

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I'm in a cargo van. I get to my destination, remove the two axle pins, remove two axles/wheels, and throw the rail (left fully assembled) and the two axles/wheels in the back of the van. Done.

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IF you are in a cargo van, why not just get a ramp? Yes, you may have to remove the mirrors and windshield.

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Hitch haulers are okay for short distances on smooth roads. Unless they are over engineered they can crack. I have put many thousands of miles on different hitch haulers and both developed cracks. I'm talking coast to coast. I now use a utility trailer and also throw on my bicycle and other items. Everything is a compromise. A trailer is a pain at times but it does the job well. Anyway it is what I found works for me.



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