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post #1091 of 1098 Old 10-18-2018, 05:25 AM
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The Africa Twin 1000 is 85.7 HP vs (for a reference)

91.6 HP for the 1000 vs

67 HP for the 650 vs

123 HP for the BMW R1200GS. (for a reference)

I ride in mountains too and it is enough for me but I am 210 lbs. I really haven't felt the need for more power - even after riding an R1200GS all day once on a swap. Maybe loaded with gear if traveling cross-country.

Slow compared to the 650? The 1000 is a 36.7% jump in HP over the 650 and there is only about a 7% weight difference. That's quite a difference.
You forgot something:
VFRX - restricted to 127 HP, with a reflash removing the restrictions, 160 HP. The above listed bikes are somewhat limited off-road capable, I would not consider the VFRX as an off road bike, although there are some that do it.

Then there is also the Super Tenere to consider.

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Another difference (seldom spoken of) between these bikes is the insurance cost (at least for us Canucks) roughly +300 for the 1k bike. And for what? Our speed limits don't warrant the 1k. The Wee is plenty here and then some..
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I just switched from 2015 DL1000 to 2014 DL650 and wouldn't go back. I just like the 650 better right across the board and I'm 230lbs.
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I just switched from 2015 DL1000 to 2014 DL650 and wouldn't go back. I just like the 650 better right across the board and I'm 230lbs.
it is not only me then. Few years ago I switched from Vee to Wee and never looked back. Now few years later I'm on my #9 650 (5xWee and 4xWee2). At some point was thinking about going to Vee2 but considering initial price, premium gas and higher insurance here in Ontario decided not to. Next one most likely is going to be Wee3 for me
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I just switched from 2015 DL1000 to 2014 DL650 and wouldn't go back. I just like the 650 better right across the board and I'm 230lbs.
I just went the other way, have owned 3 x 650's, and just bought my 1st 1000. Australia is a big place and with road trains sometimes 6 trailers long, it's nice to just twist the grip in any gear and have the bike launch around any obstacle in its path.

When loaded and a pillion on the back, is when I really appreciate the extra capacity and better suspenders.

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Just my two cents. I have two 1000's and one 650. I am 6'4" and 225lbs. Always riding two up with lots of luggage and have put lots of miles on all three. All three perform well, I would be hard pressed to tell the difference between them when it comes to performance. The 1000 feels a little more solid (in a nice way)on the road, and to me it sounds stronger. All three great bikes, just a very slight preference for the 1000
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Just my two cents. I have two 1000's and one 650. I am 6'4" and 225lbs. Always riding two up with lots of luggage and have put lots of miles on all three. All three perform well, I would be hard pressed to tell the difference between them when it comes to performance. The 1000 feels a little more solid (in a nice way)on the road, and to me it sounds stronger. All three great bikes, just a very slight preference for the 1000
Interesting that you don't see much difference between the 1000 and the 650 for performance. I was going back and forth when I was looking at buying a used Strom but ended up getting a 650. To me it has a ton of power for a 650. I am coming from a KLR so that might have something to with it.
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I owned both (Gen 2's) and at the same time and kept both for a while specifically to test the differences ( I tested on specific mountain and road conditions back to back to dispel the notions and rumors I kept reading back then - that have not gone away). I thought the difference is huge but I live in the Ozarks and use the higher end of the power frequently. It is a significant difference on long steep climbing twisties and impacts engine braking and shifting frequency. Passing and passengers on hills is significant as well. Rather than use subjective discussions on performance I think weight to HP is much more reliable a measure. The performance specs are published as well. We have been through this territory before on this thread. Yes - there is a significant difference. If you don't use much of the power band you may not notice much. Suggesting it isn't isn't there is just a false notion. I ride with an old/slow guy who has a 300 and a 650 and he probably doesn't notice much difference either as he puts along enjoying himself.

There used to be an argument that the 650 had better very low handling control but I think we disproved that as well. The difference other than performance (engine noise) comes down to cash and a tiny bit of mileage difference at least on the Gen 2's. The Gen 3 1000 lost a few HP but I don't think it was significant.
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