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View Poll Results: What chain wax/lube do you PRIMARILY use?
DuPont (Teflon Chain-Saver) 93 33.21%
Maxima (Chain Wax) 57 20.36%
BelRay (SuperClean Chain Lube) 23 8.21%
Tirox (Chain Wax) 6 2.14%
Motul brand 17 6.07%
Ipone brand 1 0.36%
Wurth brand 11 3.93%
Motor oil (used/new?) 12 4.29%
WD40 7 2.50%
(other: please post and specify!) 53 18.93%
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post #21 of 142 Old 06-13-2014, 12:36 PM
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1.) I still use the original DuPont Teflon Multi-Use Dry, Wax Lubricant as I stocked up before the formula changed. I ride mostly pavement but do some gravel and dirt roads. No trails or off road, at least not on purpose. Rain or shine but no snow or ice.

2.) When touring I lube every evening while the chain is still warm. Otherwise, about every 500 miles and I try to do that too when the chain is still warm. I do not clean the chain; stopped quite a few years ago.

3.) Last chain lasted 23,700 miles and probably had a little more life left in it but the front sprocket was showing signs of hooking and I had a 4,700 mile trip coming up. Stretch was in spec and no signs of kinking.

4.) Chain is a DID 525 ZVMX.

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Other factors in chain longevity than simply lubing.

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I switched last fall to a 50/50 mix of 90wt gear oil/bar oil. I squeeze a few drops at a time on a little sponge on a stick (something I found in a drawer) and simply roll the chain past it. It is way less messy than sprays and I am finding there is actually less fling than lighter spray lubes. So far, the chain is staying clean by itself. It seems more slippery too than heavy gunk-like sprays. I will not be able to do this on trips though, because experience showed me the little bottle does not travel well. But good at home for daily riding. Can't verify, but I suspect a chain would last longer with the sponge application than spray, which can be spotty. I am liking it and it is quick. Only downside is (as of now) it's limited to my garage. For trips, I will revert to Maxima Chain Wax which worked well for me in the past. I clean with diesel a few times a season when using the wax mostly.

I have a DID X-ring with Superlight steel sprockets with about 9,000 miles on them. Not sure how long they ll go.

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Use the dupont teflon dry lube (still available at Lowes in Canada, at least in greater Toronto area). Use the spray bottle after approximately every 400km (250 miles) when chain is warm and also after riding in the rain. Use the liquid bottle while traveling longer distances on a daily basis. Clean the chain with kerosene when it gets really dirty (after very dusty roads esp). 30,000km (18,000miles) and still on original chain and sprockets. Look fine.

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Also: For those of you using ScottOiler/similar auto-oiling systems, what do you think of them vs the manual lubing/waxing method? Are they messy? Expensive to maintain/refill? I've been thinking of trying it out; I've read that they're fantastic for keeping the chain lubed but can be quite messy.
I'm using a Tutoro and like it. How easy they are to refill depends on where you mount the unit and I expect most are the same in that regard.
I think there are distinct advantages over manual spray-can lubing, but they're not a set and forget forever thing either. You have to keep an eye on the applicator tips and tubing and watch for damage depending on how you mount things. You also have to set the feed rate to suit how and where you ride and how much mess you will tolerate. If you park your bike for extended periods you might be better off with one of the sticky lube sprays for long term rust protection. There's nothing stopping you from using both, and using the sticky spray right before you park the bike for winter might be a good idea.
As for cleaning I might wipe the chain down once in a while with an oily rag, but that's it. I'm against any scrubbing that might damage the o/x/z-rings.

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I have used the DuPont stuff and some no sling that slung like mad. But I also clean my chain with rags and the old motor oil out of the bike first. I am changing my chain and sprockets tomorrow at 32K miles.
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I think 80/90 gear oil should be included as it used to be recommended in some Honda (I think Honda) owners manuals. Please dont ask me to prove it but I am convinced they did and I used it. Bike stunk like gear oil all the time though!
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informative thread, thank you for sharing.

i have a question to add:

do most lube when the chain is warm?

and if so, do you purposely warm the chain with a ride before you lube?

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In the old days before O and X ring chains, it was standard practice to warm the chain before lubing it. Another common practice was to remove the chain and soak it in warm oil over night, or even put it in an oven on low heat in a bath of oil and "bake" it for awhile. Now, with modern chains, it's not really necessary unless it just makes you feel better about it. The O or X rings permanently seal the internal lube in, so all you really need to do is spray, wipe or drip some lube on the outside do the rollers to reduce friction a little bit.

Now, that being said, when I lube my chain, it's only because I'm on an extended ride and I've stopped for gas or whatever and decide to lube the chain and it's warm because I just finished riding. Hope this helps.

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In the old days before O and X ring chains, it was standard practice to warm the chain before lubing it. Another common practice was to remove the chain and soak it in warm oil over night, or even put it in an oven on low heat in a bath of oil and "bake" it for awhile. Now, with modern chains, it's not really necessary unless it just makes you feel better about it. The O or X rings permanently seal the internal lube in, so all you really need to do is spray, wipe or drip some lube on the outside do the rollers to reduce friction a little bit.

Now, that being said, when I lube my chain, it's only because I'm on an extended ride and I've stopped for gas or whatever and decide to lube the chain and it's warm because I just finished riding. Hope this helps.
And what you mentioned is why I highly do not recommend really cleaning a chain, other than simply wiping off with a rag. I like to use the Dupont chain de-greaser and a saturated rag, that is all I clean with.....never scrub, especially with those terrible grunge brushes.

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This lube seems to stick great and and lasts a long time between applications.
Very easy to clean off if you over lube.
Tested it against Belray Super Clean and Blue Tac. Moterex will be the one I will continue to use.
Super clean did not last very long and blue tac was messy and gummed up my clutch pushrod severely.
Hope this info helps someone.

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