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View Poll Results: What chain wax/lube do you PRIMARILY use?
DuPont (Teflon Chain-Saver) 93 33.21%
Maxima (Chain Wax) 57 20.36%
BelRay (SuperClean Chain Lube) 23 8.21%
Tirox (Chain Wax) 6 2.14%
Motul brand 17 6.07%
Ipone brand 1 0.36%
Wurth brand 11 3.93%
Motor oil (used/new?) 12 4.29%
WD40 7 2.50%
(other: please post and specify!) 53 18.93%
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post #131 of 142 Old 03-10-2019, 01:12 PM
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In Canada I use Motul Chain paste

....a bit tedious to apply but the tube comes with a brush and it does not fling at all. Mechanic who races swears by it and it stores small when touring. Just takes a little longer than spritzing.
I've never seen this, but then i haven't had a chain bike much recently, so haven't perused the chain lube section. No fling is appealing, and though it takes a bit longer to apply, I expect the paste doesn't get onto the pavement, tire, frame etc. either. I'll look for this stuff.

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I switched to V-Tom's regiment. If anyone can honestly report more life out of chains and sprockets than what he has reported, I'm all ears.

I bought a few cans of HHS2000 last summer and haven't touch my chain, other than 30 second lubing every fill up (~400km). The idea of never having to fuss/clean a chain again sounds like something I would have had a dream about... but it's a reality. No more cleaning, just lube and ride

Now I no longer have to get those jokes from my BMW RT neighbour each time I cleaned my chain

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Now I no longer have to get those jokes from my BMW RT neighbour each time I cleaned my chain
Back around 2011 or 2012 one of my Strom friends (Bruce) replaced his deceased DL1000 with an RT. Back then there was a lot of discussions about the BMW GS models having final drive failures. First indications were usually some oil drops on the rear wheel. We naturally expressed our concerns to Bruce.

Shortly after he got it we headed down to the annual gathering at the Ironhorse. When we got there and Bruce wasn't looking I put a few drops of HHS2000 on his rear wheel. My brother Gerhard pointed it out to Bruce. We let him worry for an hour or two before I told him what I did (and immediately ducked. )

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Back around 2011 or 2012 one of my Strom friends (Bruce) replaced his deceased DL1000 with an RT. Back then there was a lot of discussions about the BMW GS models having final drive failures. First indications were usually some oil drops on the rear wheel. We naturally expressed our concerns to Bruce.

Shortly after he got it we headed down to the annual gathering at the Ironhorse. When we got there and Bruce wasn't looking I put a few drops of HHS2000 on his rear wheel. My brother Gerhard pointed it out to Bruce. We let him worry for an hour or two before I told him what I did (and immediately ducked. )

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Love it!

I might have to use that one after I've incepted the idea of shaft failure with him. We are planning an Alaska trip next year... I might play the long game and do it then
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post #135 of 142 Old 04-01-2019, 01:51 PM
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On my current bike (2015 DL1000) the first chain was replaced at 45,338 miles (72,965 km.) The current chain has 47,422 miles (76,480 km) on it, it looks great and I am aiming for 62,000 miles (100,000 km.)
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Just noticed I did the wrong mileage above.

First chain (original OEM chain that came with the bike) had decent life left in it when I had it replaced at 76,180 km / 47,339 miles.

The Current chain on my bike (from a Suzuki replacement kit) had 85,281 km / 52,966 miles as of the last fill up. It will be replaced with my next tire change which should be in about 7,000 km / 4,300 Miles from now or at about 92,000 km / 57,000 miles on the chain.

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Posting this in March 2019. Walmart-yellow can-DuPont Chain Saver WAX Based Chain lube. Seven bucks. Getcha sum!
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Wd-40 for cleaning and then Fluid Film

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I ride about 90% pavement and 10% gravel roads on my DL1000 so my chain doesn't get that dirty. My belief is that it doesn't really matter what you use as long as it's safe for your o-rings and you lube on a regular basis. I clean/lube about every 300 miles.

I've taken to using the WD-40-brand chain-specific foaming cleaner and a tube of that Motul paste with the applicator brush as a lube. Reason? I like to be able to lube my chain in motel parking lots without having to put down newspapers or trash bags to catch the drips from a spray and try not to make a mess. It also forces me to get up close and personal for a chain inspection.

The Motul paste is a grayish/white color that makes it easy to see where you've applied it and where you missed. It takes more time to apply than a spray, but that doesn't bother me. Once I've applied the Motul with the applicator brush, I'll spin the back tire on the centerstand with one hand and "massage" the lube around some more with my fingers on the lower run of the chain to ensure good coverage. I also make it a point to always do the chain maintenance post-ride while the chain is still warm.

The WD-40 chain cleaner comes out as kind of a sticky foam that also doesn't drip off onto the ground. I use it in conjunction with a cheap, knock-off grunge brush to scrub the chain a little.

Can't speak for the longevity of a chain using this routine as I've only got about 3K on the DL at this point.

I do know I used to get at least 30,000 miles on a chain/sprockets on my KLR using only plain 'ol WD-40 as both a cleaner and a lube.
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Just noticed I did the wrong mileage above.

First chain (original OEM chain that came with the bike) had decent life left in it when I had it replaced at 76,180 km / 47,339 miles.

The Current chain on my bike (from a Suzuki replacement kit) had 85,281 km / 52,966 miles as of the last fill up. It will be replaced with my next tire change which should be in about 7,000 km / 4,300 Miles from now or at about 92,000 km / 57,000 miles on the chain.

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As an update the chain above was replaced at 87237 km /54207 miles. I think it was ready to be replaced as it started to need some adjustments (up to that time it had almost no adjustments apart from when the front sprocket started wearing.)

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