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post #1 of 12 Old 04-22-2014, 11:59 AM Thread Starter
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About to buy & I need advice

Hi everyone,

I just joined the forum so first off - hello!

I am about to let go of my beloved KLR 650 which I bought new in '97 and buy a new V-Strom 650. Some questions before I buy:

Keeping in mind that I will definitely be touring:

Are the Suzuki hard cases that come with the SE and EXP any good or is it better to go aftermarket?

Is the EXP a good buy? Plastic skid plate aside, it seems to have a bunch of nice features.

Is the Suzuki centre stand a good buy, or are there better aftermarket bits available?

Is the Suzuki accessory plug worthwhile or should I go aftermarket?

If there is already a good thread on this topic, please forgive my laziness and direct me there.

Looking forward to becoming part of the community!

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I presume the SE and EXP are upgraded models from the base? We have just the base model and the Adventure here in the US.

There was a thread a while back on whether you should buy the base and then upgrade, or buy the 'adventure' and get a lot of the stuff included. I think the responses were split pretty evenly.

There will be some opinions throw around, and probably no facts to back them up, so I will say that for my money, you are better off buying the base and upgrading as you desire.

The bags that come on the US Spec models (not sure they are the same) are good bags but are overpriced and frankly, a little large for my tastes. I think you could do better monetarily and aesthetically.

The Suzuki centerstand is a good piece of kit. You can probably find a cheaper one out there but I doubt you can find a better one. I worked mine into the deal when I bought the bike.

The Suzuki accessory plug is a bad investment. You are better off installing your own plug for much less cost.
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I presume the SE and EXP are upgraded models from the base? We have just the base model and the Adventure here in the US.

There was a thread a while back on whether you should buy the base and then upgrade, or buy the 'adventure' and get a lot of the stuff included. I think the responses were split pretty evenly.

There will be some opinions throw around, and probably no facts to back them up, so I will say that for my money, you are better off buying the base and upgrading as you desire.

The bags that come on the US Spec models (not sure they are the same) are good bags but are overpriced and frankly, a little large for my tastes. I think you could do better monetarily and aesthetically.

The Suzuki centerstand is a good piece of kit. You can probably find a cheaper one out there but I doubt you can find a better one. I worked mine into the deal when I bought the bike.

The Suzuki accessory plug is a bad investment. You are better off installing your own plug for much less cost.
Thanks for the tips - very helpful.

I guess we have slightly different models here in Canada. The SE has plastic luggage and the EXP (Adventutre) has aluminum. The EXP also comes with a plastic engine cowl and hand guards, which I did not see on the U.S. website. Check out Canadian model here:
website.Suzuki Cycles - Product Lines - Cycles - Products - V-Strom 650 - 2014 - DL650EXP

The price is really good too. Almost thinking that I get the EXP and use the luggage until it wears out, then get aftermarket.
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0% financing pushed me into an Adventure model, plus it was easier to sell to the wife in one whack. If you don't use the side cases much, bigger is better. At 44" wide, I only put the side cases on for trips over 2 days, not for daily commuting. Without the financing, I would have just done it piecemeal.

The factory lower cover is only cosmetic, and the heated grips and accessory outlet have better and cheaper options in the aftermarket.
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0% financing pushed me into an Adventure model, plus it was easier to sell to the wife in one whack. If you don't use the side cases much, bigger is better. At 44" wide, I only put the side cases on for trips over 2 days, not for daily commuting. Without the financing, I would have just done it piecemeal.

The factory lower cover is only cosmetic, and the heated grips and accessory outlet have better and cheaper options in the aftermarket.
Thanks. Side cases and top case (the EXP comes with a top case too here in Canada) will only be for long rides, as you suggest. Unless I hear a compelling argument against the EXP, I'm not sure I could really go wrong at that price.

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I enjoy buying farkles for my bikes.

Last week I bought a 2013 DL650. Only add-on it had was lowering links.

It is fun to browse and buy just the right luggage. There are lots of choices. I like hard side cases and no top case. Put on Givi racks because I have Givi Trekkers on my GS500 and I can move them from one bike to the other.
Best to go 33l on the right and 44 on the left. Narrower on the right because the exhaust makes it stick out further.

Electrical: There is so much out there. Shop for what you need and like.

Center stand I'd say go with. I couldn't due to lowering links but I did add on swing arm spools when in the Bike Cave doing work. Out riding I rarely ever use a center stand on my (multiple) GS500's that lack of it is not a problem.

BarkBusters and great hand guards. I just put them on. SW Motech makes ones where you can add turn signals so I'll be swapping them when they come in. I'm all for visibility.

There also are many crash bars, sliders and skid plates. I went with AltRider partly because they are a local Seattle company and the skid plate doesn't mount on the engine, but the crash bars and an extra lower bracket.

Everyone has their preferences. Buy the basic bike and have fun accessorizing!
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If you want to buy a bike with farkles already installed the "exp" might be a good buy for some. The luggage is usable, but most owners don't buy that luggage when adding to a base bike. The windscreen is better than the base model, but still may not be the best for touring and might need improvement anyway. The handguards are really good, I added those to my '12. Not much brute strength, but protect from the cold wind and from rain and fit and look better than the aftermarket offerings imo. The skid plate is not a skid plate at all, referred to as a lower cowling. I love what it does for the appearance and it does a good job of keeping road crap flung from the front wheel off the exhaust pipe and engine. Might deflect some rock/gravel also. The Suzuki engine guards are not all that robust, I think the aftermarket units are a lot tougher. But, again, if you want it all installed when you pick up the bike and the price is good for you the exp might be the one.

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The adventure model in the US doesn't come with a top case either. Personally I would rather have the aluminum boxes, but I don't know that I could justify a 700 dollar difference between them.

However, the crash bars and variable windshield starts to bridge that gap. I didn't go with the US adventure because I wanted the Givi air flow windshield, and real bark busters (the suzuki models are just plastic, no metal spine) and the bags weren't worth 1500 bucks to me.

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Good advice here. I second the call out for Bark Busters. Within 6 months of putting mine on I dropped it going downhill on a forest service trail, and every time I look at the surface damage to the BB I am glad that didn't happen to my hand! Beyond that I use a Givi top case for everything up to 3 days or so (I don't usually camp). I have Givi side cases but rarely use them, and a Givi windscreen that works well for me.

I like the comment to buy the basic bike and farkle it to suit yourself.

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0% financing pushed me into an Adventure model, plus it was easier to sell to the wife in one whack. If you don't use the side cases much, bigger is better. At 44" wide, I only put the side cases on for trips over 2 days, not for daily commuting. Without the financing, I would have just done it piecemeal.

The factory lower cover is only cosmetic, and the heated grips and accessory outlet have better and cheaper options in the aftermarket.
+1 I feel the same way. I also bought mine during the riding season so I got my Adventure model at a very good deal and the %0 financing. If the 0%wasn't being offered then I would have got the base model. Either way a GREAT bike. Welcome to the forum.
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